From owner-ctm-announce Sat Jul 21 8:10:40 2001 Delivered-To: ctm-announce@freebsd.org Received: from hfep02.dion.ne.jp (hfep02.dion.ne.jp [203.181.105.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B5C37B403 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 08:10:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from haro@h4.dion.ne.jp) Received: from localhost ([211.5.26.104]) by hfep02.dion.ne.jp with ESMTP id <20010721151025343.CUPL@hfep02.dion.ne.jp>; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 00:10:25 +0900 To: ctm-announce@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: imp@harmony.village.org, mmeola@uswest.com, mckay@thehub.com.au Subject: Re: CTM mirrors In-Reply-To: <200107211308.f6LD8gI43156@dungeon.home> References: <3B576081.AB4CFAF3@math.missouri.edu> <200107201607.f6KG7bo66654@harmony.village.org> <200107211308.f6LD8gI43156@dungeon.home> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010722001010K.haro@h4.dion.ne.jp> Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 00:10:10 +0900 From: Munehiro Matsuda X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 47 Sender: owner-ctm-announce@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, From: Stephen McKay Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 23:08:42 +1000 ::>And cvsup can't? I've run it through many different firewalls in the ::>past, over socks5 proxies and a couple of other strange ::>configurations. I'd be interested to hear how your environment is ::>different than mine that you can't run it. :: ::I don't know how common it is, but at my previous employer, nobody got ::to tunnel anything. CTM was essential. Well, essential if you wanted ::the FreeBSD source. The only other alternative was to download the source ::using a browser (since the gateway required basic authentication). That ::was a tedious manual process. This was the same kind of reason, I started using CTM. ::Now that I'm doing all this at home, CTM is much better than cvsup since ::it encodes minimal differences (better for my download limit) and is quicker ::(cvsup often pauses contemplating its navel for long periods, and also ::sends a LOT of upstream data, which takes time). :: ::So, I'd say the main advantages are: :: ::1) Firewall friendly (for our disadvantaged corporate friends) ::2) Bandwidth/connection-time friendly (for our disadvantaged home users, :: including me) If I may add another advantage, it would be: 3) Ability to keep local changes, by its '.ctm' suffix scheme. With this ability, I could do some hacking and still get the latest code updated in '*.ctm' files. And this is the main reason I stll use CTM. I also use a localy created shell script, that integrates changes from CTM delta into local CVS tree, which is better than handling everything checked out from cvsup. haro =------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _ _ Munehiro (haro) Matsuda -|- /_\ |_|_| Business Incubation Dept., Kubota Corp. /|\ |_| |_|_| 1-3 Nihonbashi-Muromachi 3-Chome Chuo-ku Tokyo 103-8310, Japan Tel: +81-3-3245-3318 Fax: +81-3-3245-3315 Email: haro@kubota.co.jp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe ctm-announce" in the body of the message