From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Oct 14 8:18:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law2-f145.hotmail.com [216.32.181.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1781914BD4 for ; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:18:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from redhat_list@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 22567 invoked by uid 0); 14 Oct 1999 15:18:39 -0000 Message-ID: <19991014151839.22566.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 203.102.191.168 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 14 Oct 1999 08:18:38 PDT X-Originating-IP: [203.102.191.168] From: "Greg W" To: eirvine@tpgi.com.au Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Broken X and window managers Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:18:38 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It is the one they ship Internationally, version 3.3, sorry not sure if stable or release, although I would deem those words as mostly the same....... I did a novice install, the machine is nothing fantastic, 100mhz Pentium, 16MB ram, 2 HDD IDE , boot drive 540 mb which has / /boot etc , second disk is 850MB /usr , all seemed to go ok after 3 attempts (this was my first use of FreeBSD or a proper UNIX derivative. Install went along ok, could not fire up X at end, so over next few days, when time permitted, I would have a shot at it, at first the card I had was a SIS, there a bit sus under most OS's so I changed it for a Matrox 220 (I have access to a few cards here) , setup X by using command prompt an XF86Setup , all goes ok setting up, and can save a config file, OK , great me thinks. I used the command startx to fire it up, first had an error "no Gnome-session" , so just for the hell of it, I tried xinit then just X in case there was some other (well I dont know ) thing. Right about now I decided some binaries are missing. Over my next 10 or so visits to /stand/sysinstall and trying everything from installing all binaries, setting any combination of window managers etc , I finally got a glimpse of victory, but it soured quickly. On the last attempt I did in fact choose KDE as the window manager, and it has fired up , I have all sorts of nice icons I can click on, but WhatTFk ?? I get no response, no glimpse of any of the applications working etc, and believe me , the binaries are installed, I beggining to hate the menu driven sysinstall (over visitation limits I thinks) So...Its either the binaries cant be seen cause there on the /usr on a different disk, or hell, I dunno, I fresh out of patience for such things at the moment (thats a failure on my part), but I can log off ok, and do things like open the menu's......oh yeah and xterms pop up ok, so am hoping its trivial.... What should I do, is 2 disks ok, I imagine so, how should I get around this ? I have also recompiled my kernel, so I hope I can put it somewhere for later use if I have to trash the disk Hell I will be happy if fwm95 works....X & xterms will help me learn UNIX much quicker Thanks for any help. Greg >From: eirvine >Hi Greg, > >Well, I've recently installed FreeBSD 3.3 box from the Walnut >Creek CD-Rom http://www.cdrom.com and have had no problems at >all with X. > >I haven't touched Gnome, though. I'm a KDE user. > >We're sorry you're having so much trouble. What version of the >Cheapbytes CD are you using? > >Eddie > >Greg W wrote: > > > > Hope this is the right place to post this > > > > Using 3.3 I have tried just about everything to get X and "a" window >manager > > to work, not being a FreeBSD expert I have run out of ideas. I cannot >get > > Gnome to work at all, nor Afterstep with Gnome , I managed finally after > > about 3 days to get KDE running, but none of the apps etc will work (I >can > > get a terminal, and the menu's all operate, whoo hoo :-) ) , I have >added > > packages like a madman, actually filling the disk at one stage, I have >read > > the FAQ's etc. Its a cheapbytes CD if that helps, is there some major >step I > > have missed, the CD broken, or is X crumby on FreeBSD ? > > Signed, Never had so much X ing trouble before > >Cute :-) > > > Greg > > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message