From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 18 00:21:19 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8F21065671; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:21:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [IPv6:2001:418:1::39]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CABEC8FC19; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:21:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from ip192.186.dsl-acs2.seawa0.iinet.com ([209.20.186.192] helo=rmac.psg.com) by rip.psg.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KJdin-0001wf-Kj; Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:21:17 +0000 Message-ID: <487FE1FC.7020600@psg.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 17:21:16 -0700 From: Randy Bush User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Macintosh/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin References: <784966050807021123l267aa20en39eb513c12c90ad2@mail.gmail.com> <200807170919.49756.jhb@freebsd.org> <487F7399.6040805@psg.com> <200807172013.18535.jhb@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <200807172013.18535.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 05:02:56 +0000 Cc: Mike Makonnen , freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Robert Watson , Lothar Braun , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2008 00:21:19 -0000 John Baldwin wrote: > On Thursday 17 July 2008 12:30:17 pm Randy Bush wrote: >>> I think the best route to that is to have a separate utility for managing >>> disk partitioning. The installer can then use that utility, and >>> sysadmins can also use it later after the system is installed. >> i often invoke sysinstall on a running system to slice/partition/etc a >> new drive > Yes, I have found it nicer than raw bsdlabel in the past, but I think it > should be a standalone tool (diskpart or some such) that manages that and > that the installer should use that tool rather than the installer having a > disk partitioning sub-personality. oh, i agree completely. my point was that i seem to invoke sysinstall when standalone would be more 'normal.' and then i was pointed to sade(8) :) . randy