From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Fri Jun 10 13:17:50 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9C0B70460 for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2AA1A5C for ; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 85C6CB7045F; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:17:50 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 853D7B7045E; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 42E7E1A5B; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1bBMJh-000F0p-5V; Fri, 10 Jun 2016 16:17:41 +0300 Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 16:17:41 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: krad Cc: Dag-Erling =?utf-8?B?U23DuHJncmF2?= , freebsd-security@freebsd.org, "stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: unbound and ntp issuse Message-ID: <20160610131741.GC75630@zxy.spb.ru> References: <20160602122727.GB75625@zxy.spb.ru> <86pors7cba.fsf@desk.des.no> <20160608094859.GH75625@zxy.spb.ru> <20160609080440.GR75630@zxy.spb.ru> <20160609133739.GV75630@zxy.spb.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:17:50 -0000 On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 12:53:04PM +0100, krad wrote: > Pretty much every box requires some form of configuration so its a moot > point. IF you want automated deployment you will almost certainly be > building a pxe or prepreared usb/cd image of some sort. In which case you > include these settings in the deployed rc.conf. This sound like "installer and default config not need, use ansible for all" > On 9 June 2016 at 14:37, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 02:29:09PM +0100, krad wrote: > > > > > I doubt that will happen as you are asking to pollute every release > > > installation for an edge condition when there is numerous work arounds > > > that would be acceptable to most. eg two lines in rc.conf will fix the > > > issue. > > > > This manual editing will be required by every install on RPi, for > > example. > > > > Also, this issuse hard to dignostics by average user. > > > > > On 9 June 2016 at 09:04, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 09, 2016 at 08:39:42AM +0100, krad wrote: > > > > > > > > > googles will be pretty static, but i would just use them as a one > > off, ie > > > > > with ntpdate > > > > > > > > i am talk about freebsd system/project. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 8 June 2016 at 10:48, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 08, 2016 at 02:29:29AM +0200, Dag-Erling Smørgrav > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Slawa Olhovchenkov writes: > > > > > > > > IMHO, ntp.conf need to include some numeric IP of public ntp > > > > servers. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTP_server_misuse_and_abuse > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poul-Henning_Kamp#Dispute_with_D-Link > > > > > > > > > > > > What you suggestion? > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > > > > > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > > > > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to " > > > > freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > > > > > > > > >