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Date:      Sun, 04 Aug 2019 19:33:21 +0000
From:      greg@unrelenting.technology
To:        "Johannes Lundberg" <johalun0@gmail.com>, "Jan Beich" <jbeich@freebsd.org>
Cc:        "Niclas Zeising" <zeising+freebsd@daemonic.se>, "FreeBSD X11 mailing list" <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD Graphics Team Meeting Minutes
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August 4, 2019 9:12 PM, "Johannes Lundberg" <johalun0@gmail.com> wrote:=
=0A> On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 10:38 PM Jan Beich <jbeich@freebsd.org> wrote=
:=0A>> Ping. Is Warner the only "we" working on meeting minutes/notes? Di=
d the=0A>> team discuss ways to avoid delays in publishing notes during o=
ne of the=0A>> said meetings?=0A> =0A> Toxic attitudes ain't gonna make t=
hings move faster. How about joining the=0A> meetings and actively partic=
ipate instead of whining and complaining from=0A> the sidelines as you al=
ways do?=0A=0ADo meetings and teams and other bureaucracy make things mov=
e faster?=0A=0AThe only time I see anything get done quickly in FreeBSD (=
and specifically in ports) is when an individual committer with the corre=
ct rights/ownership/whatever is *proactively* interested in pushing somet=
hing forward. The only fast team is KDE.. and that's because it's just on=
e person really.



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