From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 07:27:16 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B29337B401 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 07:27:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net (heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.189]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A99F43FB1 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 07:27:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0250.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.198.250] helo=mindspring.com) by heron.mail.pas.earthlink.net with asmtp (SSLv3:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.33 #1) id 19Cgvr-0006I5-00; Mon, 05 May 2003 07:27:08 -0700 Message-ID: <3EB6746F.E7E3616C@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 07:25:51 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Daniel O'Connor References: <20030504020700.B3CCA37B401@hub.freebsd.org> <200305051222.05046.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-ELNK-Trace: b1a02af9316fbb217a47c185c03b154d40683398e744b8a4fb8c1b037403cfd610671995b4729fb6666fa475841a1c7a350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: kientzle@acm.org Subject: Re: Floppy Support X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 14:27:16 -0000 Daniel O'Connor wrote: > Or use modules.. > The vast majority of drivers are loadable as modules. It would be feasible to > standardise the PCI ID tables of drivers and then generate a list from it > which you can use to load modules for cards you find. ...loading them from some media for which the BIOS is capable of causing the loader to pre-load it using BIOS calls, or for which the kernel can load it only if there is a driver for that media statically compiled into the kernel, or for which a driver has been loaded via BIOS calls by the loader before the kernel is started. Q: I have a CDROM on controller XXX, how do I install? A: Load the driver for controller XXX from the CDROM. Q: If I could access the CDROM without the !@#!$*! driver, I wouldn't need to *LOAD* the driver! A: Oh. Still a "catch-22". -- Terry