From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 18 08:15:35 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD66B106566C for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:15:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CFD8FC1C for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:15:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.61.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9543B7A4; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:15:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8I8FXEw074300; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:15:33 GMT (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: Wojciech Puchar From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:08:52 +0200." Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:15:33 +0000 Message-ID: <74299.1347956133@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:31:21 +0000 Cc: Garrett Cooper , freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Mike Meyer , Zhihao Yuan Subject: Re: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:15:35 -0000 In message , Wojci ech Puchar writes: >That's all true. But do anyone understand why there is still so much >pressure for every open source OS and specifically *BSD on "default >desktop environment" or similar ideas? Tell you what: When you have at least 75% of the user population of FreeBSD agreeing on which window manager we should offer as the default, we can talk about this. Until such a consensus exists, this discussion is just a waste of time. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.