From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Feb 4 18:29:57 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A12F916A4CE for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 18:29:57 +0000 (GMT) Received: from ns1.tiadon.com (SMTP.tiadon.com [69.27.132.161]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD65D43D39 for ; Fri, 4 Feb 2005 18:29:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [69.27.131.0] ([69.27.131.0]) by ns1.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Fri, 4 Feb 2005 12:29:47 -0600 Message-ID: <4203BF1E.7020709@daleco.biz> Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 12:29:50 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John References: <20050113152405.A5302@starfire.mn.org> <200501152147.13994.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <20050115235739.A20785@starfire.mn.org> <200501152335.49531.krinklyfig@spymac.com> <20050116213137.B25343@starfire.mn.org> In-Reply-To: <20050116213137.B25343@starfire.mn.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 04 Feb 2005 18:29:48.0114 (UTC) FILETIME=[81C9DB20:01C50AE7] cc: Joshua Tinnin cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Out of the frying pan... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Feb 2005 18:29:57 -0000 John wrote: >On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 11:35:49PM -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote: > > >>On Saturday 15 January 2005 09:57 pm, John wrote: >> >> >>>On Sat, Jan 15, 2005 at 09:47:13PM -0800, Joshua Tinnin wrote: >>> >>> >>>>On Saturday 15 January 2005 07:23 pm, John >>>> >>>> >>wrote: >> >> >>>>>Oh, and figure out WHAT is going on with Konqueror. On some web >>>>>sites, it is just fine and dandy, but on other web sites, it just >>>>>is GLACIAL. I'm talking about MINUTES to render a page. The CPU >>>>>isn't busy, there's no IO going on - I have NO IDEA what it is >>>>>waiting for. It's so bad, it stretches credibility. Then, as I >>>>>said, on other web sites, it's just fine. Sometimes is stops >>>>>with 94% loaded and just waits a couple minutes - sometimes it >>>>>pauses with like "12 out of 19 image loaded," and sometimes it >>>>>pauses just as soon as it resolves the new URL and connects to >>>>>the server. VERY odd. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Well, it just told you what's happening. It's waiting to load some >>>>images and the page won't render until it happens. IIRC, this >>>>happens because of image tags without size parameters, though I'm >>>>not entirely >>>> >>>> >>>Thanks for your response, Joshua! >>> >>>Well, your answer is very reasonable given the information I >>>supplied, but it is not what's happening. I can have my Windoze >>>work-owned laptop next to it on the table, and it will load up >>>these pages in a snap. Konqueror isn't getting any data - it sits >>>there with nothing happening - no data coming across the network. >>> >>> >>You may have an issue with DNS. You should have DNS servers listed in >>your /etc/resolv.conf, like this: >> >>nameserver 888.888.888.888 >> >>(the number is an example - you should use your ISP's nameserver or your >>internal one, if you've set it up) >> >>Is this also an issue with other browsers or network software? If you >>haven't done so already, you should try Firefox or Opera and see if >>Konqueror is the problem. >> >> > >Opera does not have this problem. It appears to be unique to >Konqueror. Odd - but I was going to shop around for a different >browser, anyway. > > Month late, kilodollars short. Probably I'm just griping, but some food for thought: Oh, the cruft that gets put on the WWW these daze. ActiveX, Java applets, Flash, bla bla ... unless you're sure that you were only looking at sites displaying *relatively compliant* (X)HTML, you can't trust just any site to work on just any browser without a lot of often hair-raising work in browser configuration and installation of plugins. There's a whole bunch of $PLURAL_ADJECTIVE_NOUN out there who don't know about standards and don't care, and they are quite responsible for a number of my griefs with browsers on FreeBSD. The other day I followed a link that led to some site with an "Any Da _ _ Browser" logo. Loved the thought, and we should all do that --- there are standards. But, of course, I can't use that graphic on most of my sites.... Kevin Kinsey