From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 30 19:28:15 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A25A106567A for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 19:28:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from mail.potentialtech.com (internet.potentialtech.com [66.167.251.6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9392E8FC13 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 19:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from overdrive.ws.pitbpa0.priv.collaborativefusion.com (pr40.pitbpa0.pub.collaborativefusion.com [206.210.89.202]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.potentialtech.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 67590F7449; Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:28:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 14:28:12 -0500 From: Bill Moran To: "John D McDonnell" Message-Id: <20101130142812.932dc144.wmoran@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <1291144623.17510.1407935057@webmail.messagingengine.com> References: <1291144623.17510.1407935057@webmail.messagingengine.com> Organization: Bill Moran X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.0.3 (GTK+ 2.20.1; amd64-portbld-freebsd8.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can MS Exchange play nice with the mailing lists? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 19:28:15 -0000 In response to "John D McDonnell" : > Sorry if this is a repost, had an error when sending the original e-mail > and after waiting a bit, I haven't seen the message show up on > Questions, so I'm guessing it didn't go through. > > In regards to contacting postmaster@pcam.org, that would be either me or > my boss, neither of which is very knowledgeable of Exchange, though I > somewhat know my way around sendmail. > > I pulled this from our e-mail archiver (the last test message I sent was > in Oct, I mostly just read the lists): That is some of the most useless diagnostics I've seen in a while -- kudos to Microsoft for continuing to be worthless. However, giving a (somewhat wild) guess, I would first see if Exchange is actually stupid enough to use exchange.pcam.local as its HELO name in the SMTP dialog. This is obviously not a valid DNS name and would trigger a lot of spam systems to reject the email (mine, in particular, would) > > From: Microsoft Exchange > > To: John McDonnell > Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 11:54:21 -0400 > Subject: Undeliverable: Testing... > Thread-Topic: Testing... > Thread-Index: Act0XPK0+2s6XIazSNy5B+gk+G1+lgBkkXt6 > Message-ID: > References: > <5C15CC37D15E0540B4D554157EE33EB7012719135D07@exchange.pcam.local> > In-Reply-To: > <5C15CC37D15E0540B4D554157EE33EB7012719135D07@exchange.pcam.local> > Accept-Language: en-US > Content-Language: en-US > X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Internal > X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthMechanism: 05 > X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: exchange.pcam.local > X-MS-Has-Attach: yes > X-Auto-Response-Suppress: All > X-MS-Exchange-Organization-SCL: -1 > X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: > x-ms-exchange-organization-originalsize: 5669 > x-ms-exchange-organization-recipient-limit-verified: True > x-ms-exchange-organization-dsn-version: 12 > Content-Type: multipart/report; > boundary="_000_ad4cb5ac5ee0456dba74dcc66ea52ac9_"; > report-type=delivery-status > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > --_000_ad4cb5ac5ee0456dba74dcc66ea52ac9_ > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="_002_ad4cb5ac5ee0456dba74dcc66ea52ac9_" > > --_002_ad4cb5ac5ee0456dba74dcc66ea52ac9_ > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Delivery has failed to these recipients or distribution lists: > > freebsd-test@freebsd.org > Microsoft Exchange has been trying to deliver this message without > success = > and has stopped trying. Please try sending this message again, or > provide t= > he following diagnostic text to your system administrator. > > ________________________________ > Sent by Microsoft Exchange Server 2007 > > > > > > > Diagnostic information for administrators: > > Generating server: exchange.pcam.local > > freebsd-test@freebsd.org > #550 4.4.7 QUEUE.Expired; message expired ## > > Original message headers: > > Received: from exchange.pcam.local ([10.10.0.13]) by exchange.pcam.local > ([10.10.0.13]) with mapi; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:54:47 -0400 > From: John McDonnell > To: "freebsd-test@freebsd.org" > Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:54:46 -0400 > Subject: Testing... > Thread-Topic: Testing... > Thread-Index: Act0XPK0+2s6XIazSNy5B+gk+G1+lg=3D=3D > Message-ID: > <5C15CC37D15E0540B4D554157EE33EB7012719135D07@exchange.pcam.loc= > al> > Accept-Language: en-US > Content-Language: en-US > X-MS-Has-Attach: > X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: > acceptlanguage: en-US > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > > --_002_ad4cb5ac5ee0456dba74dcc66ea52ac9_ > Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > >

Delivery has > failed= > to these recipients or distribution lists:

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> Microsoft Exchange has been trying to deliver this message without > success = > and has stopped trying. Please try sending this message again, or > provide t= > he following diagnostic text to your system administrator.

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Generating server: exchange.pcam.local

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> #550 4.4.7 QUEUE.Expired; message expired ##

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> From: John McDonnell <mcdonnjd@pcam.org>
> To: "freebsd-test@freebsd.org"
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> Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:54:46 -0400
> Subject: Testing...
> Thread-Topic: Testing...
> Thread-Index: Act0XPK0+2s6XIazSNy5B+gk+G1+lg=3D=3D
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> Accept-Language: en-US
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> > > = > > --_002_ad4cb5ac5ee0456dba74dcc66ea52ac9_-- > > --_000_ad4cb5ac5ee0456dba74dcc66ea52ac9_ > Content-Type: message/delivery-status > > Reporting-MTA: dns; exchange.pcam.local > > Final-recipient: RFC822; freebsd-test@freebsd.org > Action: failed > Status: 4.4.7 > X-Supplementary-Info: < #4.4.7 smtp;550 4.4.7 QUEUE.Expired; message > expired> > > > --_000_ad4cb5ac5ee0456dba74dcc66ea52ac9_ > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > > Received: from exchange.pcam.local ([10.10.0.13]) by exchange.pcam.local > ([10.10.0.13]) with mapi; Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:54:47 -0400 > From: John McDonnell > To: "freebsd-test@freebsd.org" > Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:54:46 -0400 > Subject: Testing... > Thread-Topic: Testing... > Thread-Index: Act0XPK0+2s6XIazSNy5B+gk+G1+lg== > Message-ID: > <5C15CC37D15E0540B4D554157EE33EB7012719135D07@exchange.pcam.local> > Accept-Language: en-US > Content-Language: en-US > X-MS-Has-Attach: > X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: > acceptlanguage: en-US > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > MIME-Version: 1.0 > > This is obviously a test. ^_^ > > -- > John D McDonnell > Penn Cambria School District > mcdonnjd@pcam.org > O< ASCII Ribbon Campain - http://www.asciiribbon.org/ > > > > --_000_ad4cb5ac5ee0456dba74dcc66ea52ac9_-- > > -- > John D. McDonnell > gorgarath@xsmail.com > http://www.gorgarath.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" -- Bill Moran http://www.potentialtech.com http://people.collaborativefusion.com/~wmoran/