From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Feb 17 17:23:13 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0211E54A914 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 17:23:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qv1-xf34.google.com (mail-qv1-xf34.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f34]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Dgl6S2Cnyz3tFb for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 17:23:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qv1-xf34.google.com with SMTP id a1so6604766qvd.13 for ; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 09:23:12 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=CUaN4J0JcrsMTWlKzgHM5Dt8PUV0IMh8ByezvEDRjsk=; b=f/UKFnwwHXGVhug1tCCzIuVO4oGQX7t+tzFKY6lpWfIHn00Eijo0ntx9x7KQcvlfcN o7oKVF1zd+57hvmmjvmDMEX9iwelFlR18JRsJr+YWrKcvKXnDqCyCBS8SXu/Sgn09186 omBphtn5LqpDgnnXIk3i8EMzTsvdYb+QA+LyFTEYIqlLs9W7m6ZVFiET767srMoFemeS yyUbYnTiDuXApboqJ7cpOst2rpoqxokuC+rs2f5TtXEzVanuVbtgdV+aSn8SDA5WekNM L6QRR8ggX5S1b5MRhtk7eYslixR7w651IrEF++2Gdd0PyupMjW92zR+MwF/61tiL3yI4 Nnrw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=CUaN4J0JcrsMTWlKzgHM5Dt8PUV0IMh8ByezvEDRjsk=; b=Cn8ZCGKI69Hg1ATEETg3kXTOrmmGiSLTfnGvark3j+vhe5T9yH0SzvN3kyz8eTvXFW 7hVy5q+TGciTg9CNxvsF8rquxPkeUdWWi/9tPeR1+BODOYU2sQ+zHciF3O6RBVUAB2rK fl7ath95OKnd5QbCGWjZFBvS7IjqMWxcK4rdhHEv4ky4YiOsumRgWPt/8qXoGbIZi+X9 h6xnk/dugZoMjYFFQqaoVEVC1fHm/+D0Zq8ZtDcGrl59MYU/tUheily3dA1rCZaxO38D c+OEuRA54YIf03/onWcpcvUGSVLeYlpjARz4SvH4j6iBtVU6uzRT5Z9V4AQb3/Uk8cYm pw0A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530z7tnmDjDNHO49PyXwfP8A7VQadbrzGSuHaAI1uZW2EaKE7bhM nt4myJFzlPfzfvG5svbFcG/ZSLrl3oa6slEgNKu8BA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyUISITlfeXbF0h4NaaAlQ7QFceaOwnvwjTwAetN+T4rYFz3pz963fuHgZKut4X4kD/R/J7IarJuQyrhtlgyzc= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:174d:: with SMTP id dc13mr209601qvb.62.1613582590719; Wed, 17 Feb 2021 09:23:10 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <9FAFDEE8-97DA-4FF7-AADB-4BFC14F07E13.ref@yahoo.com> <9FAFDEE8-97DA-4FF7-AADB-4BFC14F07E13@yahoo.com> <85821016-60AA-4E9C-94DB-9FAD1E718182@yahoo.com> <09a02078-f282-8866-cf2e-84e35bad8899@omnilan.de> In-Reply-To: <09a02078-f282-8866-cf2e-84e35bad8899@omnilan.de> From: Warner Losh Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 10:22:59 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: New Optane AIC does not show up in FreeBSD until . . . ? To: Harry Schmalzbauer Cc: Mark Millard , freebsd-current X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Dgl6S2Cnyz3tFb X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=f/UKFnww; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wlosh@bsdimp.com has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::f34) smtp.mailfrom=wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::f34:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-current@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::f34:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::f34:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[yahoo.com,freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-current]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.34 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 17:23:13 -0000 On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 1:48 AM Harry Schmalzbauer wrote: > Am 14.02.2021 um 02:36 schrieb Mark Millard via freebsd-current: > > On 2021-Feb-13, at 16:40, Warner Losh wrote: > > > >> Are you aware of gpart create? > >> > >> Warner > > From which I derive that I had an implicit, incorrect > > assumption that gpart show would in some way list > > everything available that gpart could manipulate > > (including for use in creation). > > 'geom disk status' is my first choice for such a case. > Even nvd(4) should show up I think, nda(4) just changes the access path, > not geom(8) integration, afaik. > nvd and nda are mutually exclusive block device interfaces to the nvme driver. As far as geom is concerned, they are no different than da, ada or any of the other block device drivers we have that use the geom interface. sysctl kern.disks is a briefer version of that. Warner