From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun May 1 03:11:13 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5814E1065670 for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 03:11:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhellenthal@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2E18FC0A for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 03:11:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iyj12 with SMTP id 12so5552153iyj.13 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 20:11:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:x-openpgp-key-id:x-openpgp-key-fingerprint :x-openpgp-key-url; bh=WYNxJeLqPbzD7yVMlKyAmgAoK+6+4xxbpTrWaQ1vDtQ=; b=HcN1ypTAGDh7bKLmjJ3zhLaNnZ4wnAXRRdEh/zQZ5WxEI8tMIh7RJT6Q7KnPSd56tH A0EN0lwlM5xh5Xu8IpG4Ul0z/TRtBZy335oxzV7mpt/rkF4xA28FXDqyJ2eOjv1Qcq48 MuC3w7tXYE472B0I0JWyD7vGlqgZuoqfjX+28= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:x-openpgp-key-id :x-openpgp-key-fingerprint:x-openpgp-key-url; b=gh0RBmHsQVpC3s2rrcntYyGRaqYaquT8PHpPM0UNAGZo1F2JjyBVeMXf1FLBGdA7zn dnXlrOcgrdAxY8rOVzGNyq1E7mECxUWwJ1TkeLsLjB062ZHCgQcUvrq6yainlWrh8tjl DhgNHTG9r1/a/4mCyPRCiIElcpX6/6BA2h9k4= Received: by 10.231.25.137 with SMTP id z9mr5324239ibb.53.1304219472437; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 20:11:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from DataIX.net (adsl-99-190-84-116.dsl.klmzmi.sbcglobal.net [99.190.84.116]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f7sm1778640ibn.7.2011.04.30.20.11.10 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 30 Apr 2011 20:11:11 -0700 (PDT) Sender: "J. Hellenthal" Received: from DataIX.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by DataIX.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p413B7U2025313 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 30 Apr 2011 23:11:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhell@DataIX.net) Received: (from jhell@localhost) by DataIX.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id p413B501025304; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 23:11:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhell@DataIX.net) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 23:11:05 -0400 From: Jason Hellenthal To: Devin Teske Message-ID: <20110501031105.GA16357@DataIX.net> References: <20110430192737.287270@gmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-OpenPGP-Key-Id: 0x89D8547E X-OpenPGP-Key-Fingerprint: 85EF E26B 07BB 3777 76BE B12A 9057 8789 89D8 547E X-OpenPGP-Key-URL: http://bit.ly/0x89D8547E Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, 'Dieter BSD' Subject: Re: [RELEASE] New Boot-Loader Menu X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 03:11:13 -0000 --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Devin, On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 04:00:47PM -0700, Devin Teske wrote: > >> Would be nice: "uname -v" of the kernel it will boot. > >That's a bit more technically challenging. I'll have another look at the >FICL words available, but I don't recall if there was a way to crawl the >object space of the items loaded with ``load'' (looking for the uname). I'm >open to suggestions if you had an idea of how to do this in Forth -- else >I'd think this would need to be a loader(8) modification. How about forgetting a mention of unmae & ... instead look into if we can support some sort of bootcode versioning to be displayed on the screen. This would serve to be very helpful in the future when for say a new version of bootcode for ZFS has to be installed then it would be easy for announce@ to simply say "A new version of ZFS has been MFCd and requires boot version >=3D X. To find out your version please see the bottom right hand corner of your boot screen." I would place a pretty good bet that loader(8) could be modified to export some sort of versioning of the bootcode to make this a easier stance for the user to gather information before a upgrade. --=20 Regards, (jhell) Jason Hellenthal --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://bit.ly/0x89D8547E iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJNvM9IAAoJEJBXh4mJ2FR+bXMH/iHBCo8H8RHSMEdY0fz2N20w qo1stCEzILUe8IHtFWDulezbL+jvEUlLZ/6+2XJv4SOOS0U4wMg6IVp2NjkOSNWF My5xAQATAFewpSbMC9gx9//nOqcfkay2vSYGDkBh87rj/943JpZMltvcrcqRbeO0 R/PE68BcD/twTiIfvtJgNkay02WQkIT7jtFhWpPkqnt2A1GSy1MzZVnDb1tuX8nQ h7rl6X9nMtLdw6iSgdMLBa70gjhpzAZd6FcNGtdFYEY4kwEMVTfBClCfkMkLmBsD EwUsQmVJJGMnfr+nGrdP6pOOBzGutooHczuG66I+8nfwmqeaJE1fcNMyXMo6Aqg= =V+9F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm--