From owner-freebsd-www@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 30 14:21:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-www@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C14A316A41C; Mon, 30 May 2005 14:21:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from redqueen.elvandar.org (redqueen.evilcoder-services.org [217.148.169.55]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B9DE43D49; Mon, 30 May 2005 14:21:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from remko@elvandar.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by redqueen.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03B90295479; Mon, 30 May 2005 16:21:46 +0200 (CEST) Received: from redqueen.elvandar.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (redqueen.evilcoder-services.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 21420-01; Mon, 30 May 2005 16:21:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail.evilcoder.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by redqueen.elvandar.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73C6A295473; Mon, 30 May 2005 16:21:45 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <62091.145.221.92.41.1117462905.squirrel@webmail.evilcoder.org> In-Reply-To: <20050530134159.2E70D4BEAE@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20050530134159.2E70D4BEAE@ws1-1.us4.outblaze.com> Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 16:21:45 +0200 (CEST) From: "Remko Lodder" To: "Fafa Hafiz Krantz" User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by the evilcoder-services.org maildomain Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-www@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [30-05-05] Layout update X-BeenThere: freebsd-www@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Project Webmasters List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 14:21:47 -0000 On Mon, May 30, 2005 15:41, Fafa Hafiz Krantz said: Hi Fafa! > You're wasting your time, the webdesign contest hasn't started yet. > So? So far i have only seen complaints from you and no actual contribution to the discussion and ideas. If you want to talk along, please consider thinking what can be done and what looks great instead of just complaining. > Your design is very clear and mature, however it doesn't give the > project > the corporate feel that it requires to sustain among the big players. We need a simple site that does what it needs to do; we do not have to be a big player for that. Please keep your head on your shoulders; it's currently flying away from you. > Don't give away your ideas this early :) > Make them better, and use them to win that competition! Life isn't about winning competition's. The contributors to FreeBSD think it's just a way of life to help eachother instead of winning etc. Other operating systems might have that opinion but i personally think we are just a happy camp of users who are willing to create a great product. So my advise would actually be ; bring your ideas so we can think with all of us (with usefull feedback instead of rants!) how we want to have the new freebsd site. > > -- > > Fafa Hafiz Krantz > Research Designer @ http://www.home.no/barbershop > Enlightened @ http://www.home.no/barbershop/smart/sharon.pdf -- Kind regards, Remko Lodder ** remko@elvandar.org Reporter DSINET ** remko@DSINet.org Founder Tienervaders ** remko@tienervaders.org FreeBSD DocTeam & SecTeam ** remko@FreeBSD.org