From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed May 15 13:01:28 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F36709 for ; Wed, 15 May 2013 13:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul@kraus-haus.org) Received: from mail-vc0-f171.google.com (mail-vc0-f171.google.com [209.85.220.171]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6739FAE9 for ; Wed, 15 May 2013 13:01:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id m17so274513vca.2 for ; Wed, 15 May 2013 06:01:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer :x-gm-message-state; bh=4VePb7lkDo0hkPVCibdzNe+dbRCwSiKowl4ymEdKy7g=; b=U+CT1oleigczeXdpLPHl426iraPrjqLPCnKa8WIAGjDspRFwHM5KSO59pcfGvFlbp6 FqheT+4yvUfzgyGfsUidV6l6zl/WC4s75hPSfAplJSp48OymvFu//AbrluX2/ca6/hOZ iP8VBgVaszvQtrcZn6zf/rPOGeCNrj23Fsk7pdm/VnaTsm+O/53vsnbfSZWKbwN41VHq 6+7fpDlCtaJxLasOx2SBLtFqCvlgHTr2QsM8R6lshlnj3ouvcdKgav2rHO4FdOM52C80 ABFuhmO9Zg9DtOkyto4PFdZTvTW1H2KhxX5LVk7hiqdEl7pJJns50TMkhuSMZdCOETVG rb9A== X-Received: by 10.52.236.135 with SMTP id uu7mr10446533vdc.61.1368622886484; Wed, 15 May 2013 06:01:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.2.66] ([96.236.21.119]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id kz18sm2595745vdb.13.2013.05.15.06.01.25 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 15 May 2013 06:01:25 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Subject: Re: List Spam Filtering From: Paul Kraus In-Reply-To: <5192F06A.5060308@herveybayaustralia.com.au> Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 09:01:24 -0400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <31B79403-401A-4BFC-835E-EC89D84F83C2@kraus-haus.org> References: <1368039547.0568389241738319@mf7.sendgrid.net> <201305090026.r490QQeA095142@fire.js.berklix.net> <20130512120452.GA27244@gsp.org> <5192F06A.5060308@herveybayaustralia.com.au> To: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQn5XQ4O9Pj9gkXbLwxs+pItsrxpYBHKMMXdiTR7+SqrulN34Nbf6pnL1VFlrHa4rvls6l+f X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 13:01:28 -0000 On May 14, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Da Rock = wrote: > I'm a big fan of _not_ having to subscribe to a list to get a quick = hand with a one off problem (obviously not this one!)- otherwise too = many lists get subscribed to, oodles of messages come in which you can't = do anything about and so forth (so its not simply just a matter of = subscribe, unsubscribe as noted). Unfortunately, many see it as a spam = filter and thereby abuse it. How often do you need help with an issue = with libreoffice, mozilla whatever, or other application? And yet = subscription is compulsory and a ton of messages (devs convs mostly) = come flooding in within minutes. Other lists I have been on had both a list and a forum that = accessed the same content. While I see that FreeBSD has both, I do not = think they share content. A forum gateway to the list would permit folks = to sign up for the forum and NOT get a ton of email. If the forum were = publicly readable that would also provide a way to look through (if not = search) the archives. I am not trying to make work for people, just suggesting another = way to address the competing issues of SPAM reduction and ease of = access. -- Paul Kraus Deputy Technical Director, LoneStarCon 3 Sound Coordinator, Schenectady Light Opera Company