From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Apr 1 23:23:28 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id XAA12267 for hackers-outgoing; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 23:23:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from sax.sax.de (sax.sax.de [193.175.26.33]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA12255 for ; Tue, 1 Apr 1997 23:23:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by sax.sax.de (8.6.12/8.6.12-s1) with UUCP id JAA02936 for hackers@freebsd.org; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:23:22 +0200 Received: (from j@localhost) by uriah.heep.sax.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id JAA23078; Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:12:09 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <19970402091209.IH24661@uriah.heep.sax.de> Date: Wed, 2 Apr 1997 09:12:09 +0200 From: j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch) To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Code maintenance References: <19970401225410.UY37092@uriah.heep.sax.de> <199704012351.QAA12448@phaeton.artisoft.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.60_p2-3,5,8-9 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Phone: +49-351-2012 669 X-PGP-Fingerprint: DC 47 E6 E4 FF A6 E9 8F 93 21 E0 7D F9 12 D6 4E Reply-To: joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de (Joerg Wunsch) In-Reply-To: <199704012351.QAA12448@phaeton.artisoft.com>; from Terry Lambert on Apr 1, 1997 16:51:39 -0700 Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk As Terry Lambert wrote: > > Yes, see the ft(4) and aic(4) drivers for two good examples. Both > > sorely lack a maintainer, and nobody seems to be interested in doing > > this job. > > > Has this code suddenly mutated into unusability? No. It never worked excitingly well, but nobody bothered to fix the problems after the first imports. Also, in the ft(4) case, the hardware on the market evolved _a lot_ after the initial driver, making it only working for ancient crap nowadays. Terry, get real. Kernel interface changes have been the least part of the problem, and look into the CVS history, were often the only reason why someone has touched the source of that unmaintained code at all. And, one of these kernel interface changes should be well known to you: the inclusion of DEVFS. :) -- cheers, J"org joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)