From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 19 19:58:01 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5F7810656D0; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 19:58:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (bsdimp.com [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA858FC0C; Mon, 19 Dec 2011 19:58:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [10.30.101.53] ([209.117.142.2]) (authenticated bits=0) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.14.4/8.14.3) with ESMTP id pBJJlLfb051153 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:47:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: Warner Losh In-Reply-To: <20111202223716.GA35140@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:46:46 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <5A7C9A6F-34F6-4BEB-AFE7-D6D7C50D7AB2@bsdimp.com> References: <20111202015133.GA4111@dragon.NUXI.org> <20111202064132.GC88903@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <4ED8776F.9060301@FreeBSD.org> <20111202072349.GA89183@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20111202083501.GA73959@dragon.NUXI.org> <20111202223716.GA35140@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> To: Steve Kargl X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.0.1 (harmony.bsdimp.com [10.0.0.6]); Mon, 19 Dec 2011 12:47:25 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, Doug Barton , Max Khon Subject: Re: WITHOUT_PROFILE=yes by default X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 19:58:01 -0000 On Dec 2, 2011, at 3:37 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Fri, Dec 02, 2011 at 04:21:14PM +0700, Max Khon wrote: >>=20 >> The most important thing is to have reasonable defaults. >> Having WITH_PROFILE by default does not seem to be a reasonable = default to me. >>=20 Now all users that want to profile anything need to build their own = custom FreeBSD? That seems even more nuts to me. Warner