From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Mon Jun 10 22:58:40 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C1B115CB3EC for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 22:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qk1-x736.google.com (mail-qk1-x736.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::736]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EBBB69D9F for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 22:58:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qk1-x736.google.com with SMTP id r6so6493669qkc.0 for ; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 15:58:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=W7bom9QnspzaFs71kYZyYiaQGAM9uVchszIKw6Uf4TI=; b=0UOy1V+RTh+O7zxB9moLA9AztxsmVGZnW2gX7jbD05W+sJCMVWKbMakJugJU/1Xaot qfqBmbnvULIVhDqonpKkbtEO2Oh4e/R3k7PnZEALn4Y6kUmPw7ctp0g4a/FH9ux0Spj0 mMx8Qyfd60qpAAQkyhmDwXXusT7jrOhECCYNcKVlCsTFHYsUW4yDb9Soif/nw05yA85D BTYSgMMAS3XoI0cIczs+JKZp1hc48/7TBJU/B/fUKkZRI31co/xQotj7y1Bu6Ry0fRjg oCECoWPDhWcZcRvQ0Z8bqoGNnVl5+6U1RpQpr06cGueQcZGRmZ22q9BCjywFckZDlMeN fSAA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=W7bom9QnspzaFs71kYZyYiaQGAM9uVchszIKw6Uf4TI=; b=WYNCOhs79AtBkGVQ76eKkhuJ+4X8t3FfU2Y5stdI4gtMhUBiokvjGnna6aTrWhKe7c TpU7ZELGJOogxp/tvL0jNPgt9jJUYZy2Y5woV1jHKhvqlbuXHJfdk6px5Om8JnXmoCtV MYL5Y2vOwQY6Lk3kVdwYdTfIDlsuQOW7fxCc+wr22A5aO46aEFAXIA1ufkl91l8eWSzv nzJs8Zrvqshv7NKkgWr5AGGb+w0WJd+7Y7cVLF19kBRnC9xYt5EpTfPPw345ftTltqXk lJVSdhU+9iQD5I6zzM6rQmvJAYAavUrph3rLnjEW8Yp6e59JJrsA9P/TkICBqXgZx1R3 i9Og== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAU6XsrnMbOkGXY78cUgq5S3/+yKR/0HzY30oJa1UxKzzeNG6cRM /KMhBgnvPIbprxpHeZzn6ru1tRGevcm65AK01H72mQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwSgnu6JSMfZ5TkayKWi/RQhQVjRGCc+m7PZrQEUhSbLN+xT3CQuz97tXgwkx+fIgCyA5qzZUAFqWK661u/qIo= X-Received: by 2002:a37:5942:: with SMTP id n63mr44966908qkb.69.1560207518537; Mon, 10 Jun 2019 15:58:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <201906100528.x5A5S4gm072561@repo.freebsd.org> <20190610110909.3e6fbc13@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <20190611013853.E3415@besplex.bde.org> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 16:58:27 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r348847 - head/sys/sys To: "Conrad E. Meyer" Cc: Bruce Evans , src-committers , svn-src-all , svn-src-head X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5EBBB69D9F X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.94 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.937,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2019 22:58:40 -0000 On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 10:51 AM Conrad Meyer wrote: > On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 9:17 AM Bruce Evans wrote: > > Only headers and libraries should support -std=c89. has > > lots of support for compilers and POSIX versions going back to K&R C, > > and only the K&R parts are completely broken. > > Is this due to specific policy, or just inertia? (No one has bothered > to remove the old bits?) The older parts being totally broken > suggests sheer inertia. > As far as I know, it's been policy because there are a number of ports that compile with -std=c89, or used to be. I accidentally broke that a long time ago and had to fix it to unbreak a few ports (but granted, this was a while ago). Warner