From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Apr 25 14:52:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDEC737C077 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 14:52:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (IDENT:deraadt@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e3PLpuu05097; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:51:56 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200004252151.e3PLpuu05097@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Mathew Richardson Cc: Alan Cox , Brett Glass , Jeroen Vreeken , linux-usb@suse.com, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, misc@openbsd.org Subject: Re: [linux-usb] Anti-NDA petition In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:45:51 EDT." <20000425174551.A6062@scotch.merit.edu> Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:51:55 -0600 From: Theo de Raadt Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Alan Cox [Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 10:38:07PM +0100]: > >Militancy: no not militancy - Im supporting the vendors who currently support > >us. Thats good business. Why should I promise to buy Philips products if they > >will release source. I have a fine vision made camera with a stable driver > >from a vendor who has been helpful. > > That wasn't the request (that you promise to buy Philips products if they > will release source.) The request was that you make the claim that your > decision to purchase would be influenced (presumably favorably) by whether > or not an open-source driver was available. well that's pretty obvious. of course there are people who factor future operating system choices into their hardware purchases. and in our camp there are even people who buy hardware because it isn't supported yet, so that it can be supported. in our camp, lots of people avoid hardware because they know it will never run with free software. in the opposite camp, there must be a non-zero % of people who choose to buy hardware based on how many operating systems are supported. but i will admit that I avoid buying products from vendors who just recently "got it". sometimes they change their attitude with other products, for instance, intel. I think it is perfect to tell vendors that you recommend against using their products. By their actions, they are recommending against the use of our software... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message