From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Oct 22 09:27:42 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5DAC1C173 for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 09:27:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [192.108.105.60]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.soaustin.net", Issuer "StartCom Class 2 IV Server CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 082A9DFA for ; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 09:27:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: from lonesome.com (bones.soaustin.net [192.108.105.22]) by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 455D6112E; Sat, 22 Oct 2016 04:27:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 04:27:39 -0500 From: Mark Linimon To: andrew clarke Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: misc/jive deleted Message-ID: <20161022092738.GA5690@lonesome.com> References: <20161022024510.7cvnhc2fdh7h7arh@ozzmosis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20161022024510.7cvnhc2fdh7h7arh@ozzmosis.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 09:27:42 -0000 disclaimer: I wasn't the person who made the decision. This change became contentious after it was made; however, that discussion only occurred on internal mailing lists. The "pro" removal points: some of these terms are no longer acceptable in polite society, and far cross the line from humor to offensive. If FreeBSD is trying to be more inclusive, having this around isn't the way. The "anti" removal point: well, just don't install it, then. I fall firmly into the former camp, and for the reason stated. At least one of the terms could never possibly have been interpreted as humor in my native Texas. And particularly in Houston, Texas, where in the late 1970s the term was used in a police incident, in which the suspect later died. tl:dr; it's pretty difficult to offend me personally, but when I read that particular entry, I turned pale. mcl