From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 21:37:14 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4389216A4CE for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:37:14 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E87B443D41 for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:37:13 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2JLbRIK026873; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:37:27 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503192137.j2JLbRIK026873@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Scott Long In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:30:55 MST." <423C8BFF.6060500@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:37:27 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: Bob Beck cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Adam cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:37:14 -0000 > What part of the FreeBSD AAC driver is closed, emcumbered, or otherwise > non-free? The bits that do management. Therefore, the bits that let it do what RAID controllers are meant to do. Can you fully operate an aac(4) card -- 100% of it's abilities, on a FreeBSD machine, without using a binary only tool downloaded from the Dell web site? Are you being obtuse on purpose? Why don't you admit it. FreeBSD relies on non-free binary code for Adaptec raid management. You can't even put it onto a FreeBSD distribution CD. Why do you keep discussing the free stuff, and distracting everyone from the non-free bits? Is it because you used to work for Adaptec? Are you paid to distract people from the non-free code?