From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jul 12 23:37:32 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 089C215D9C62 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 23:37:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lee@adminart.net) Received: from mo6-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de (mo6-p00-ob.smtp.rzone.de [IPv6:2a01:238:20a:202:5300::12]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "*.smtp.rzone.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5883491795 for ; Fri, 12 Jul 2019 23:37:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from lee@adminart.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; t=1562974647; s=strato-dkim-0002; d=adminart.net; h=References:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To:Subject:Cc:To:From: X-RZG-CLASS-ID:X-RZG-AUTH:From:Subject:Sender; bh=nnxu6t1/nHQTuhIkrH999DTHNoXaIn+WSVRwugOD1Ik=; b=suk83VY02NmJtDH1zOcXC4O8h06GgEizYS6NPWQ0xHbumkEWvxgr7CaAXzGOoIDrDp JEeiFgOL+Rzvmf41uxw8ToeFljwdGgmvzKv7+IIhRaoVwEPIkKasxe3z35pj31aCGisT Mti6zQqltq4PDAzJR6UxbkW7fmCyRkWY+BVY6DJYxnvCYBhPDZlZUQivLw4KdUy7GrtM gBLP17qUi60VsKIwu75YSkk25xwM20eoHJJOtwieggx2bbyYrABOm9i+9lBhKJsmplqo /6enTfJJDguwdBpylyzBSSa1EDYgRDh3ltJmMGCnq64dUnA02rwg/6S2tT8JJ/eFOFlI XHRg== X-RZG-AUTH: ":O2kGeEG7b/pS1FS4THaxjVF9w0vVgfQ9xGcjwO5WMRo5c+h5ceMqQWZ3yrBp+ARdaXvxIDf7nlw=" X-RZG-CLASS-ID: mo00 Received: from himinbjorg.adminart.net by smtp.strato.de (RZmta 44.24 DYNA|AUTH) with ESMTPSA id e0059dv6CNbQPFA (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (curve secp521r1 with 521 ECDH bits, eq. 15360 bits RSA)) (Client did not present a certificate); Sat, 13 Jul 2019 01:37:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: from toy.adminart.net ([192.168.3.55]) by himinbjorg.adminart.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hm56U-00023z-AA; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 01:37:26 +0200 Received: from lee by toy.adminart.net with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1hm56T-0001dq-QP; Sat, 13 Jul 2019 01:37:26 +0200 From: hw To: "Kevin P. Neal" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dead slow update servers In-Reply-To: <20190712171910.GA25091@neutralgood.org> (Kevin P. Neal's message of "Fri, 12 Jul 2019 13:19:10 -0400") Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 00:25:58 +0200 Message-ID: <871ryuj3ex.fsf@toy.adminart.net> References: <87sgrbi3qg.fsf@toy.adminart.net> <20190712171910.GA25091@neutralgood.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 5883491795 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=adminart.net header.s=strato-dkim-0002 header.b=suk83VY0 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.89 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[adminart.net:s=strato-dkim-0002]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[adminart.net]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: smtpin.rzone.de]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[adminart.net:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.04)[-0.045,0]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[hw@adminart.net,lee@adminart.net]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[2.1.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.3.5.2.0.2.0.a.0.2.0.8.3.2.0.1.0.a.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.1]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6724, ipnet:2a01:238::/32, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[hw@adminart.net,lee@adminart.net]; IP_SCORE(-0.74)[ipnet: 2a01:238::/32(-3.27), asn: 6724(-0.40), country: DE(-0.01)] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 23:37:32 -0000 "Kevin P. Neal" writes: > On Fri, Jul 12, 2019 at 07:04:23PM +0200, hw wrote: >> Hi, >> >> are you guys seriously expecting users to download packages they want to >> install at speeds around 25kb/s? I'm already annoyed about them being >> painfully slow when downloads are 1000 times faster than that. >> >> Unless there is a solution to this problem, I will probably give up on >> trying out freebsd right away because usage in production even on my >> servers at home, let alone at work, simply won't be feasible. > > I don't actually know why it would be so slow, but it may be that lots of > people are upgrading to the new 11.3 release and the servers are swamped. > Which means that any other week there probably won't be an issue. Ok, maybe I'll try again next week. In the meantime, Trueos seems quite likeable except that it somewhat forces you to use ZFS. Since I don't want ZFS for what I'm doing, freebsd would probably be better.