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Date:      Wed, 16 Aug 2006 00:10:02 +0200
From:      Alexander Leidinger <Alexander@Leidinger.net>
To:        Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu>
Cc:        Suleiman Souhlal <ssouhlal@freebsd.org>, Kip Macy <kmacy@fsmware.com>, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>, current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: HEADS-UP: starting to commit linuxolator (SoC 2006) changes...
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Quoting Steve Kargl <sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> (Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:06:03 -0700):

> On Tue, Aug 15, 2006 at 10:57:12PM +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote:
> > Quoting Kip Macy <kmacy@fsmware.com> (Tue, 15 Aug 2006 13:10:42 -0700 (PDT)):
> > 
> > > 
> > > Actually, it increases the likelihood that new bugs will increase the
> > > difficulty of isolating existing bugs.
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > linux emulation on amd64 has been broken for several days.
> > > > acroread and openoffice both drop core.  These changes
> > > > probably can't make matters worse.
> > 
> > jhb asked for debugging infos and I tried to push people for them too.
> > So far nobody helped with the necessary debug stuff. People with
> > interest in getting this fixed can coordinate with jhb, it is
> > independent from the SoC stuff...
> > 
> 
> I've tried to get more info.  Unfortunately, the core dumps
> (that I've been able to get) do not reveal anything beyond
> what John already knew.  See Kip's quote above on why finding

He also suggested to add some printf()s to the kernel.

> this already elusive bug may become much more difficult.

If you don't switch on the use of the new code with sysctl, you don't
see a difference. acroread works on i386 as before when you don't use
sysctl. The code which is known to have some issues (futexes) isn't
available on amd64 (at least not the MD parts), so you will notice if
acroread uses the new code or not. If it tries to use the new code for
some strange reason (I would be surprised if it does), we are able to
come up with a patch which disables this part very fast (actually some
parts are already disabled there).

Bye,
Alexander.

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