From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 7 22:28:52 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8559B657 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 22:28:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bright@mu.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7725A19B7 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 22:28:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Alfreds-MacBook-Pro-9.local (c-67-180-208-218.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.180.208.218]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 55E061A3C61 for ; Sun, 7 Jul 2013 15:28:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <51D9EBA4.2060207@mu.org> Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 15:28:52 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.7; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130620 Thunderbird/17.0.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [SPAM] Announcing: nuOS 0.0.9.1b1 - a whole NEW FreeBSD distro, NOT a fork References: <51D9E499.103@nuos.org> <51D9E641.5020905@pathscale.com> In-Reply-To: <51D9E641.5020905@pathscale.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 22:28:52 -0000 On 7/7/13 3:05 PM, "C. Bergström" wrote: > On 07/ 8/13 04:58 AM, Chad J. Milios wrote: > > > >> Outline of features: >> >> Extends plain old FreeBSD 9.1 (RELEASE or STABLE) and maintains total >> compatibility >> We seek to remain nimble >> Expect a production-ready seal of approval to lag behind releases >> by no more than a week or two >> and prebuilt images and packages >> e.g. releases like 9.2 and 10.0, et al >> Someone should be able to build it and use all applicable >> features on 8.4 with ease >> we simply haven't the time or inclination to even try >> Default full ZFS filesystem layout, completely legacy-free >> Boot from ZFS, boot to ZFS >> If you'd like use all 100.0% of all your drives for one large >> zpool >> Use one large zpool for all of your >> filesystems >> block volumes >> alternate boot environments, including one called >> "rescue" which is included >> NO partitions, not some tiny /, not even a /boot >> Just ZFS datasets in their infinite flexibility >> /etc is now a ZFS dataset of its own >> How did we do it? >> Decades of conventional wisdom says /etc must be >> on /. >> Check it out, discuss the whys and the trade-offs. >> nu_jail - provision all sorts of jails >> No guesswork >> Yet no cookie-cutter limitations >> Clean-room jails provisioned almost instantly >> ZFS clone of /etc and /var give you almost no storage overhead >> nullfs and/or unionfs mounts of /, /usr, /usr/local give you >> almost no memory overhead >> Run 1,000 jails and 10,000 Apache instances >> they safely access the same executable memory pages >> they securely know not of one-another's existence >> Advanced intra-host networking with VIMAGE kernel by default, >> simplified >> Made for developers who want robustness, power and flexibility >> streamlined for >> Unlimited development, testing, staging and production >> environments >> Uses all of the new jail and vnet features of FreeBSD 9.1 >> We cleaned out all of the cruft left over from earlier versions > > omg you've created Solaris > > ------------ > If you're going to spam commercial stuff with absolutely no > technically interesting details - please keep it brief at the least. > > Generally people will be curious about > What are you actually adding to the ISO which FBSD-current can't do? > If it's not upstream already - will it be contributed upstream? It seems pretty obvious to me that the contribution is that all this stuff works out of the box. That is pretty nice. -- Alfred Perlstein VP Software Engineering, iXsystems