Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 12:43:25 -0700 From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg@tristatelogic.com> To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Subject: Re: yelp update ? Message-ID: <21588.1336851805@tristatelogic.com> In-Reply-To: <CAN6yY1tbtjn7D7%2BZMq4zjCvNa6S2LSoe1xV-Pm5tdHA7Yq7BhA@mail.gmail.com>
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In message <CAN6yY1tbtjn7D7+ZMq4zjCvNa6S2LSoe1xV-Pm5tdHA7Yq7BhA@mail.gmail.com> , Kevin Oberman <kob6558@gmail.com> wrote: >Work on Gnome3 has been on-going, but it is very Linux-centric and >things like devkit are central to it and very hard to port of FreeBSD. That is, quite certainly, unfortunate. >This is more of a fracturing of the user community. If you look at >Gnome3, it bears little resemblance to Gnome2. And the changes are >very much functional, not just cosmetic. The Gnome team (not the >FreeBSD one) decided that a standardized, non-modifiable look and feel >was needed by Gnome. That also is quite unfortunate. (I also am a fan of flexibility, as long as reasonably good defaults are avaiable for everything.) >As a result, Gnome3 offers little ability to modify the default >operation. Yecch. >They decided that minimizing (iconifying) windows was not >needed, so it's gone. Yecch again. (This alone would be enough to make _me_ never want to use Gnome3.) >Last I looked (which is not even close to >recently) they had removed almost all setting options from the >desktop. Much of the user community simply rebelled. Given everything you just described, I can well understand why. >Actually, a fix was submitted for this on April 28 and it has been >committed, so yelp has worked for me for a couple of weeks and for >everyone who updates their yelp. (I worked with Jody Caldwell to get >the PR submitted, but he submitted the one-line fix.) Hummm... well, I guss that somebhow I missed picking that up. Sorry. I really had thought that I had a fairly up-to-date ports tree, but maybe not quite up-to-date enough. >Note this this >was a one-line bug fix, not an upgrade to a development version of yelp. Yes. >I think two weeks after PR submission to commit is not all that bad. Agreed. Anyway, thanks for explaining the state of affairs vis-a-vis Gnome2/3. I really didn't know about any of that, and it's been quite enlightening. Regards, rfg
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