From owner-cvs-src@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 17:34:25 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: cvs-src@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7712316A4CE; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:34:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5465F43D2F; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:34:25 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0) with ESMTP id i8KHaMil024107; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:36:22 -0700 Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.13.0/8.13.0/Submit) id i8KHaM9A024106; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:36:22 -0700 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:36:22 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Roman Kurakin Message-ID: <20040920173622.GA21687@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <200409200706.i8K76vYc011437@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040920093504.GD11948@elvis.mu.org> <20040920163417.GB4630@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <414F12F4.7090100@cronyx.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="5vNYLRcllDrimb99" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <414F12F4.7090100@cronyx.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=8.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on odin.ac.hmc.edu cc: Brooks Davis cc: cvs-src@FreeBSD.org cc: Alfred Perlstein cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/release Makefile X-BeenThere: cvs-src@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 17:34:25 -0000 --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 09:27:16PM +0400, Roman Kurakin wrote: > Brooks Davis wrote: >=20 > >On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 02:35:04AM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > >=20 > > > >>* Brooks Davis [040920 00:06] wrote: > >> =20 > >> > >>>brooks 2004-09-20 07:06:57 UTC > >>> > >>> FreeBSD src repository > >>> > >>> Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_5) > >>> release Makefile=20 > >>> Log: > >>> MFC revs 1.860 and 1.861: > >>>=20 > >>> Add 'hint.atkbd.0.flags=3D"0x1"' back to /boot/device.hints on the > >>> install media on i386 and amd64. While the current default is very > >>> useful in server environments, the ability to use USB keyboards is > >>> vastly more important then the ability to use PS/2 keyboards the admin > >>> forgot to plug in during the install process. > >>>=20 > >>> Approved by: re (scottl) > >>> PR: kern/71443 kern/71568 (probably others) > >>> =20 > >>> > >>This is bullshit. Please do not break PS/2 because of USB. > >>Please fix USB to attach instead. > >> =20 > >> > >As others have pointed out, this only affects the install media. > > > >Yes, it means that if you want to install with a PS/2 keyboard you need > >to have it plugged in at boot, but that's very rare problem relative > >systems with only USB keyboards. The only situation I can think of > >where plugging the keyboard in and rebooting isn't an acceptable > >workaround is installing large numbers of machines. In that case > >building custom install media isn't all that hard. > > > >I realize this is a hack and that at the end of the day it's wrong, but > >the default is wrong too. I've got a workaround in place in multiuser > >via devd, but this late in the release cycle, I believe that what we've > >got is a good as we are likely to get. That's unfortunate, but > >sometimes that how it goes. > >=20 > > > Just an idea: >=20 > We could put bootable floppies for PS/2 and for USB. And boot from > floppy if we need. Yea, I know, there is possibilty that we do no > have one, but this could be more convenient than nothing in any of > these two case (except this would be fixed) if we have floppy drive. I don't think this is worth the effort. The workaround is to hit the reset button after attaching the PS/2 keyboard. That's a non-issue during the install process other then costing you 1-5 minutes waiting for the thing to boot. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --5vNYLRcllDrimb99 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFBTxUWXY6L6fI4GtQRAsHzAJ4w1zclri+CkRHjsQ20vRJX0FoRowCg3Oey gso0ODBDKLPRMg+KT3rsj3w= =FidE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --5vNYLRcllDrimb99--