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Date:      Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:36:22 -0700
From:      Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
To:        Roman Kurakin <rik@cronyx.ru>
Cc:        src-committers@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/release Makefile
Message-ID:  <20040920173622.GA21687@odin.ac.hmc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <414F12F4.7090100@cronyx.ru>
References:  <200409200706.i8K76vYc011437@repoman.freebsd.org> <20040920093504.GD11948@elvis.mu.org> <20040920163417.GB4630@odin.ac.hmc.edu> <414F12F4.7090100@cronyx.ru>

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On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 09:27:16PM +0400, Roman Kurakin wrote:
> Brooks Davis wrote:
>=20
> >On Mon, Sep 20, 2004 at 02:35:04AM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote:
> >=20
> >
> >>* Brooks Davis <brooks@FreeBSD.org> [040920 00:06] wrote:
> >>  =20
> >>
> >>>brooks      2004-09-20 07:06:57 UTC
> >>>
> >>> FreeBSD src repository
> >>>
> >>> Modified files:        (Branch: RELENG_5)
> >>>   release              Makefile=20
> >>> Log:
> >>> MFC revs 1.860 and 1.861:
> >>>=20
> >>> Add 'hint.atkbd.0.flags=3D"0x1"' back to /boot/device.hints on the
> >>> install media on i386 and amd64.  While the current default is very
> >>> useful in server environments, the ability to use USB keyboards is
> >>> vastly more important then the ability to use PS/2 keyboards the admin
> >>> forgot to plug in during the install process.
> >>>=20
> >>> Approved by:    re (scottl)
> >>> PR:             kern/71443 kern/71568 (probably others)
> >>>    =20
> >>>
> >>This is bullshit.  Please do not break PS/2 because of USB.
> >>Please fix USB to attach instead.
> >>  =20
> >>
> >As others have pointed out, this only affects the install media.
> >
> >Yes, it means that if you want to install with a PS/2 keyboard you need
> >to have it plugged in at boot, but that's very rare problem relative
> >systems with only USB keyboards.  The only situation I can think of
> >where plugging the keyboard in and rebooting isn't an acceptable
> >workaround is installing large numbers of machines.  In that case
> >building custom install media isn't all that hard.
> >
> >I realize this is a hack and that at the end of the day it's wrong, but
> >the default is wrong too.  I've got a workaround in place in multiuser
> >via devd, but this late in the release cycle, I believe that what we've
> >got is a good as we are likely to get.  That's unfortunate, but
> >sometimes that how it goes.
> >=20
> >
> Just an idea:
>=20
> We could put bootable floppies for PS/2 and for USB. And boot from
> floppy if we need.  Yea, I know, there is possibilty that we do no
> have one, but this could be more convenient than nothing in any of
> these two case (except this would be fixed) if we have floppy drive.

I don't think this is worth the effort.  The workaround is to hit the
reset button after attaching the PS/2 keyboard.  That's a non-issue
during the install process other then costing you 1-5 minutes waiting
for the thing to boot.

-- Brooks

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