From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Sep 9 14:17:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F08B37B400; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org [64.239.180.8]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 136A643E65; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:17:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@jetcafe.org) Received: from hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g89LHT134642; Mon, 9 Sep 2002 14:17:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dave@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org) Message-Id: <200209092117.g89LHT134642@hokkshideh2.jetcafe.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Neal E. Westfall" Cc: Terry Lambert , Juli Mallett , Joshua Lee , chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why did evolution fail? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 14:17:24 -0700 From: Dave Hayes Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Neal E Westfall writes: > On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, Dave Hayes wrote: >> Terry Lambert writes: >> > Dave Hayes wrote: >> >> What is this assumption that, if I say something in a debate, I am >> >> trying to convince people of it? Can't we just be arguing to express >> >> our worldview? >> > Not really, no. 8-). >> >> Thus spake Terry Lambert: >> >> "For yea, there must be One True and Right worldview, and any statement >> of one's worldview is trying to convince others that one's worldview >> belongs in the One True and Right worldview, amen." >> >> Did you claim to ever study Zen? =) > > Ah, but what is the claim that there is no One True Right worldview, > but a claim that the only One True Right worldview is the one which > denies that there is One True Right worldview? 8-) You have painted the dilemna of the human mind well. The real One True Right worldview is that there is no One True Right worldview, not even this one. Still, when you can think of a fish, the lion appears. ;) ------ Dave Hayes - Consultant - Altadena CA, USA - dave@jetcafe.org >>> The opinions expressed above are entirely my own <<< A "No" uttered from deepest conviction is better and greater than a "Yes" merely uttered to please, or what is worse, to avoid trouble. -- Mahatma Ghandi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message