From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 21 12:44:00 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55333106564A; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:44:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047A38FC16; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:44:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1T3nqh-000Jik-AI; Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:46:23 +0400 Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 16:46:23 +0400 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: Lev Serebryakov Message-ID: <20120821124623.GC88729@zxy.spb.ru> References: <20120821095527.GA33206@hell.ukr.net> <67977762.20120821154035@serebryakov.spb.ru> <1243982625.20120821154548@serebryakov.spb.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <1243982625.20120821154548@serebryakov.spb.ru> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Cc: Garrett Cooper , current@freebsd.org, jhb@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: r239356: does it mean, that synchronous dhcp and dhcplcinet with disabled devd gone? X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 12:44:00 -0000 On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 03:45:48PM +0400, Lev Serebryakov wrote: > Hello, Lev. > You wrote 21 августа 2012 г., 15:40:35: > > GC>> Try reverting r239356 -- if that works, then please let jhb@ know. > LS> I'm confused by this commit, because it seems (from comment alone), > LS> that dhclient will not work without devd anymore (with "synchronous > LS> dhcp" option in rc.conf). > LS> Am I right? > Also, I don't like idea of removing IP address from interface when > cable is unplugged. It was very disturbing behavior of Windows > machines for years. I've unplug cable to change switch port for only a > second and all connections are broken, even if one second later > dhcpclient receive SAME lease! I don't like this. FreeBSD was very > tolerant to unplugging cable for eons, and I (and not only me) like > it. If I understand this change properly, it is no more the case :( Not only cable. Turn on microwave, lost WiFi connection and lost all open ssh session (and other network connection).