Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 23:46:24 -0500 From: Drew Baxter <netmonger@genesis.ispace.com> To: "Jan B. Koum " <jkb@best.com>, "Jason C. Wells" <jcwells@u.washington.edu>, FreeBSD-advocacy <freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Whistle Claims and Copyrights Message-ID: <4.1.19981025234336.00a46540@genesis.ispace.com> In-Reply-To: <19981025202200.B14664@best.com> References: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9810251852020.4553-100000@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu> <Pine.BSF.4.05.9810251852020.4553-100000@s8-37-26.student.washington.edu>
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Whistle's technology appears to be very intuitive. Now while it'd be good PR to see a FreeBSD logo on their page or something, the sheer fact that they are using the software at all is something for the coders to feel warm and fuzzy about. That's just my opinion, but really, it looks like Whistle donated bug fixes and things like that. It's not like they took the code, ran off with it and called it their own. And at the same time, I will admit the unit looks really cool :-) I think I saw a place, maybe it was MSEN or somewhere like that, that sells these things and internet to small businesses. Anyway, that's my 2K's worth. At 08:22 PM 10/25/98 -0800, Jan B. Koum wrote: >On Sun, Oct 25, 1998 at 07:09:18PM -0800, "Jason C. Wells" ><jcwells@u.washington.edu> wrote: >> http://www.whistle.com/products/prod-basicfaq.html#bsd >> >> They use BSD instead of free software? Gag!! I guess they are afraid to >> "come out of the closet." > > Read below. > >> >> To be fair, they do meet the requirements of the Board of Regents >> copyright terms. >> >> Why doesn't FreeBSD add FreeBSD, Inc to the copyright? Certainly /usr/src >> contains copyrightable contributions by FreeBSD. A statement in the >> copyright requiring... >> >> 3. All advertising materials mentioning features or use of this software >> must display the following acknowledgement: >> >> This product includes software developed by the University of >> California, Berkeley and its contributors and FreeBSD Inc. and it's >> contributors. >> >> ...would seem wholly appropriate. The BSD license does not seem to >> preclude such a statement. >> >> Do we not do this to prevent scaring away customers like Whistle who are >> unwilling to advertise that they use free software? >> >> Catchya Later, | UW Mechanical Engineering >> Jason Wells | http://weber.u.washington.edu/~jcwells/ >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > > Ahh.. C'mon. Whistle has done SO MUCH for FreeBSD community it is > simply not fair to blame them of something as small as this. > > If Whistle was "unwilling to advertise that they use free software", > I am sure they wouldn't come to ORA's Open Source day and tell > people that they do use FreeBSD. I personally heard Terry say this. > > Plus, I am sure this was done by Marketing, who had no idea that > "Linux Unix" is no such thing and that having OS "in very little > memory" is well.. uhm.. not very technical saying. > > If anything, I want to say to Whistle folks, it is Thanks, with > capitol "T". Thanks for picking FreeBSD, Thanks for sending code > you wrote and bugs and fixes you found back to FreeBSD. Thanks for > creating another company at which we can point and say: "Look, they > use FreeBSD". Thanks to Julian, Archie, Terry, David W., and many > many others. > >-- Yan > >I don't have the password .... + Jan Koum >But the path is chainlinked .. | Spelled Jan, pronounced Yan. There. >So if you've got the time .... | Web: http://www.best.com/~jkb >Set the tone to sync ......... + OS: http://www.FreeBSD.org > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message --- Drew "Droobie" Baxter Network Admin/Professional Computer Nerd(TM) OneEX: The OneNetwork Exchange 207-942-0275 http://www.droo.orland.me.us My Latest Kernel: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT (ONEEX) #14: Mon Oct 19 22:36:58 EDT 1998 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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