From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Aug 15 8:16:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DA937BC77; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 08:16:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97]) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 13OiS4-000Op1-00; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:16:28 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA39113; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:16:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:16:25 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: "Christopher S. Weimann" , Olaf Hoyer , David Kelly , freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Why I Don't Do Linux Message-ID: <20000815161625.B38878@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <4.1.20000211014526.00cc8730@mail.rz.fh-wilhelmshaven.de> <20000210212329.A4718@wallnet.com> <20000210185747.G17536@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000210185747.G17536@fw.wintelcom.net>; from bright@wintelcom.net on Thu, Feb 10, 2000 at 06:57:48PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | > However, occasionally the rulers do tell someone. Under the usual | > `su' mechanism, once someone learns the root password who sympathizes | > with the ordinary users, he or she can tell the rest. The "wheel | > group" feature would make this impossible, and thus cement the power of | > the rulers. | > | > I'm on the side of the masses, not that of the rulers. If you are | > used to supporting the bosses and sysadmins in whatever they do, you | > might find this idea strange at first. | > | | Or any kind of accountability... How does the wheel group enforce accountability? Doesn't disabling remote root logins (thus requiring 'su) produce an audit trial, thus enforcing accountability? jm -- o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o | ~~~~~~~~~~~ jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org ~~~~~~~~~~~ | | "I prefer the term 'Artificial Person' myself." | o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message