From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Sep 22 23:20:32 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA15703 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:20:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from unix.tfs.net (as2-p104.tfs.net [139.146.205.104] (may be forged)) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA15675 for ; Tue, 22 Sep 1998 23:20:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jbryant@unix.tfs.net) Received: (from jbryant@localhost) by unix.tfs.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) id BAA08127; Wed, 23 Sep 1998 01:20:03 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Bryant Message-Id: <199809230620.BAA08127@unix.tfs.net> Subject: Re: 1998-09-16 Briefing on Encryption (fwd) In-Reply-To: <003d01bde658$bbc4f680$abd396ce@ivy.ezo.net> from Jim Flowers at "Sep 22, 98 02:42:20 pm" To: jflowers@ezo.net (Jim Flowers) Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 01:20:02 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-to: jbryant@unix.tfs.net X-Windows: R00LZ!@# MS-Winbl0wz DR00LZ!@# X-files: The truth is that the X-Files is fiction X-Republican: The best kind!!! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #0: Sat Jun 20 11:57:05 CDT 1998 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG personally i would call the cable&wireless/mci noc, and tell them to fix their f*****g nameservers, but be sure to check your root file first, as your domain shows that you handle your own dns, also try flushing your dns cache. in the meantime, i guess mci customers can use: http://207.96.70.148 [which is http://www.bxa.doc.gov] and the relevant page covering the new encryption policy is [follow the link marked encryption from the main bxa page]: http://207.96.11.93/Encryption/Default.htm#WHDocs the following is a brief fact sheet that i guess the white house digested from the original press briefing. ------------- THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary For Immediate Release September 16, 1998 FACT SHEET Administration Updates Encryption Policy Exports of 56-bit DES and equivalent products (hardware and software) will be streamlined (under license exception). Requirements for key recovery plans are eliminated. Exports of unlimited strength encryption products (with or without key recovery) will be streamlined (under license exception) to certain industries. The sectors are: Subsidiaries of U. S. Firms, worldwide (except seven terrorist nations). Insurance companies to the same 45 countries recently approved for exports to banks and financial institution exports. Health and medical organizations (including civilian government health agencies) in the same 45 countries. Does not include biochemical/pharmaceutical manufacturers. On-line merchants for client-server applications, in the same 45 countries, with the purpose of securing electronic transactions between merchants and their customers. Does not include manufacturers and distributors of items controlled on the U.S. munitions list. Key Recovery products will continue to be exportable under license exception worldwide (except seven terrorist nations). Review of foreign key recovery agents is eliminated. Exports of "recoverable" products will be approved to most commercial firms, and their wholly-owned subsidiaries, in a broad range of countries under encryption licensing arrangements. This group of countries covers most major commercial markets including Western Europe, Japan, and Australia. The policy does not include service providers and manufacturers and distributors of items controlled on the U.S. munitions list. Exports to end users or destinations outside this policy are possible on a case-by-case basis. Prior to export, products are subject to a one-time product technical review. ------------- i posted this topic to -hackers because it is the appropriate group to post to. this is a wider issue than just os-security IMHO. most of the applications i see falling under this still use embedded encryption. i honestly doubt that this will cover source code, but i could be wrong. please remember that this is not a universal relaxation of policies, and that the internet spreads a bit farther than the intended markets for this policy. the second to last paragraph in the fact sheet *could* cover freebsd [but would probably be a pain in the ass, and could be like the old GTDA license, one per end-user required]. the bxa encryption page mentions some upcoming bxa seminars on this topic, and maybe jordan can send someone from the core group to get better answers. this is only a suggestion, not a request. ------------- In reply: > You must have a better Internet than I do. My utilities report that > www.bxa.doc.gov is a Non-existent host/domain. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Bryant > To: Jim Flowers > Date: Tuesday, September 22, 1998 1:22 PM > Subject: Re: 1998-09-16 Briefing on Encryption (fwd) > > > >try: > > > >http://www.bxa.doc.gov > > > >In reply: > >> Yes it is. Thanks. Any idea where the BXA website went? > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Jim Bryant > >> To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG > >> Date: Thursday, September 17, 1998 1:14 AM > >> Subject: 1998-09-16 Briefing on Encryption (fwd) > >> > >> > >> > > >> >this is interesting... > >> > > >> > -jim > >> > > >> >----- Forwarded message from The White House ----- > >> > > >> > THE WHITE HOUSE > >> > > >> > Office of the Press Secretary > >> >________________________________________________________________________ > >> >For Immediate Release September 16, 1998 > >> > > >> > > >> > PRESS BRIEFING BY > >> > THE VICE PRESIDENT, > >> > DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF JOHN PODESTA, > >> > PRINCIPAL ASSOCIATE DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL ROBERT LITT, > >> > ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF THE FBI CAROLYN MORRIS, > >> > UNDER SECRETARY OF COMMERCE WILLIAM REINSCH, > >> > DEPUTY SECRETARY OF DEFENSE JOHN HAMRE, > >> > AND DEPUTY NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR JIM STEINBERG > >> > > >> > > >> > The Briefing Room > >> > > >> > > >> >11:57 A.M. 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