From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Nov 20 22:37:31 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D3E0B9FE; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 22:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-x22b.google.com (mail-wi0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 640DF93C; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 22:37:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id bs8so10249471wib.10 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:37:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=MiEv05Z1bAiGRMBd2OpbRK4vizilncZ59jZZK+TFpmA=; b=oYyDzzvCQDPknOMUeA2EZ5Tp2a3duTSaB3QHFAxIf/1CpmZuZod/mETmrEPF6Rw8tN PEXL2OXFg0SBaVrBM09Hkgv2+0NkDBC36lCnaigi1piwCyY9lzknoCUU7X/e2HDMnD4H AAptCVRsD9eh5qqPcbUk07XPjfxrb3noLXk42vmo4Gvx7FqR9hGYSQA83RRYAmJRKbaI 1QTuJx9QjcV+HkYq5Mg7BW7FKUec8Y70uyh0kBXJ1nYne9/Wj4tUYRMszE3VDcqN6+5Q otKiBjf+OmwyNW6P1jf4EYThV7B+Bp+4fcvLpBwuRcUo+5Vn+5PCUVxpjC0TLfwki/YJ ahiw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.99.105 with SMTP id ep9mr2089565wib.26.1416523049815; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:37:29 -0800 (PST) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.216.106.136 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:37:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <201411201631.27556.jhb@freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 14:37:29 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: mahvChkv05s39DLDrCx0teN6z40 Message-ID: Subject: Re: I'd like to axe some drivers From: Adrian Chadd To: Warner Losh Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2014 22:37:32 -0000 On 20 November 2014 14:30, Warner Losh wrote: > tl;dr: kill everything on your list. > > Notes. > > On Nov 20, 2014, at 2:31 PM, John Baldwin wrote: > >> wl(4): This is a driver for an ancient pre-802.11 wireless adapter. = It >> also includes wlconfig(8). Warner promises he won't test an= y >> patches for this. It's older and slower than wi(4) and that dr= iver >> hasn't really worked in years. (One could make the case for ax= ing >> an(4) and wi(4) as well, but I'm just pushing for wl(4).) > > I had this driver working. In FreeBSD 4.2. I discontinued using this card > back in the 90=E2=80=99s. I discarded this cards themselves a couple of = years > ago. It doesn=E2=80=99t interoperate with anything except itself. Compari= sons to > wi(4) aren=E2=80=99t really relevant.This is ancient hardware, of limited= use to > all but a few arcane people that hasn=E2=80=99t likely be run in a real s= ystem > since before the US knew about Monica... > >> ie(4): Unfortunately, someone actually found one of these and tested = it >> several years ago when I added locking to it. It is the only I= SA >> NIC driver that doesn't have a pccard attachment (you can in th= eory >> still use a pccard NIC in a cardbus slot (though not ExpressCar= d)). >> This also only does 10Mb using PIO (no DMA). It doesn't use >> bus_space. > > No PC Cards using this chip were ever made that I could discover (and > I tried very hard). Not having enough users that care enough to update > it to the latest thing, nor to test it, etc speaks volumes. It=E2=80=99s = hardware that=E2=80=99s > not relevant enough to generate in the 15 years that they=E2=80=99ve been= around. > Other ISA and PC Card drivers have had those fixes done, but we=E2=80=99r= e not > talking about them. ie(4) should be retired. I found an ISA ie(4) NIC on Ebay. Who has a box with ISA ports? :) -adrian