From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 18 08:52:21 2012 Return-Path: <owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG> Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3AD4106564A for <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:52:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B7B38FC08 for <freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org>; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:52:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.61.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEBC03B755; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:52:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q8I8qJMe082605; Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:52:19 GMT (envelope-from phk@phk.freebsd.dk) To: Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 18 Sep 2012 10:39:43 +0200." <alpine.BSF.2.00.1209181039140.44948@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:52:19 +0000 Message-ID: <82604.1347958339@critter.freebsd.dk> X-Mailman-Approved-At: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 11:31:35 +0000 Cc: Garrett Cooper <yanegomi@gmail.com>, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Mike Meyer <mwm@mired.org>, Zhihao Yuan <lichray@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD <freebsd-hackers.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers>, <mailto:freebsd-hackers-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers> List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-hackers-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers>, <mailto:freebsd-hackers-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2012 08:52:21 -0000 In message <alpine.BSF.2.00.1209181039140.44948@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>, Wojci ech Puchar writes: >>> desktop environment" or similar ideas? >> >> Tell you what: >> >> When you have at least 75% of the user population of FreeBSD agreeing >> on which window manager we should offer as the default, we can talk >> about this. > >so if 76% would decide that FreeBSD should have KDE included in system - >it means that it should? Just to clarify: when I write "offer by default" I do not mean "cram down peoples throat". -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.