Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:07:13 +0100 From: Mark Murray <markm@FreeBSD.org> To: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= <des@des.no> Cc: Arthur Mesh <arthurmesh@gmail.com>, Ian Lepore <freebsd@damnhippie.dyndns.org>, Doug Barton <dougb@freebsd.org>, Ben Laurie <benl@freebsd.org>, freebsd-security@freebsd.org, RW <rwmaillists@googlemail.com>, "Bjoern A. Zeeb" <bz@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r239569 - head/etc/rc.d Message-ID: <E1TDFVB-000Eyg-Pr@groundzero.grondar.org> In-Reply-To: <86fw6iyt9w.fsf@ds4.des.no> References: <50453686.9090100@FreeBSD.org> <20120911082309.GD72584@dragon.NUXI.org> <504F0687.7020309@FreeBSD.org> <201209121628.18088.jhb@freebsd.org> <5050F477.8060409@FreeBSD.org> <20120912213141.GI14077@x96.org> <20120913052431.GA15052@dragon.NUXI.org> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1209131258210.13080@ai.fobar.qr> <alpine.BSF.2.00.1209141336170.13080@ai.fobar.qr> <E1TCXN0-000NFT-7I@groundzero.grondar.org> <CAG5KPzwOdCkybj3D5uic1KC-pwW-pewgsrqrXg60f5SJjtzYPw@mail.gmail.com> <E1TCbDG-0002Hz-9D@groundzero.grondar.org> <CAG5KPzzRxzVX-%2B9fYjRdqjY-wScbM6AA7GYtLmktgMG0Zg8iyQ@mail.gmail.com> <E1TCbSz-0007CJ-BI@groundzero.grondar.org> <CAG5KPzyJNmXRfxtPPrdc2zVCsxGtDfJT79YC3a1PNUfOOSzt8A@mail.gmail.com> <E1TCcIq-000Brr-Ex@groundzero.grondar.org> <CAG5KPzwEESg7iUb2%2B-kAN%2Bk55M95BZjh5VaSvxzSsSCVuZ9kMw@mail.gmail.com> <E1TCdlD-000C1N-4g@groundzero.grondar.org> <86fw6iyt9w.fsf@ds4.des.no>
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=?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= writes: > Mark Murray <mark@grondar.org> writes: > > You have to rely on something; Yarrow needs some entropy to cold-start, > > and on a freshly installed OS, this is rocking-horse shit. This is > > where BIG problems start because it is at this time that (eg) SSH keys > > are built. We make some effort to get the user to "kayboard bash", but > > experience has shown that annoyed users screw up, and annoyed engineers > > are often worse. > > Look at the code, the "keyboard bash" hasn't worked since someone broke > it in 2006. Ah crap, thanks! :-( M -- Mark R V Murray Pi: 132511160
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