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From: Polytropon <freebsd@edvax.de>
To: Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com>
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On Thu, 13 Aug 2020 16:12:18 -0400, Aryeh Friedman wrote:
> They have a whacko firewall config that will eat 443/decrypt it/forward it
> on as plain http via a proxy on the firewall

So what you're saying is: They don't care about security,
in fact, they're making things worse, by being the "man in
the middle"?! Wow...

"Boohoohoo! SSH is so insecure, we must not allow that!"


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Polytropon
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Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0
Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...