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Date:      Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:04:07 -0400
From:      Wesley Shields <wxs@FreeBSD.org>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: portmaster and restarting of upgraded daemons
Message-ID:  <20080323150407.GA41098@atarininja.org>
In-Reply-To: <20080323144823.GA72507@eos.sc1.parodius.com>
References:  <47E660A3.3050805@quip.cz> <20080323144823.GA72507@eos.sc1.parodius.com>

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On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 07:48:23AM -0700, Jeremy Chadwick wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 02:52:35PM +0100, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
> > I am almost new to portmaster, so I got a question - is there any 
> > possibility to restart installed services as in portupgrade with defined 
> > BEFOREBUILD / BEFOREDEINSTALL / AFTERINSTALL? Or is there any future plan 
> > to do so? It is annoying if I end up with some dead services after upgrade 
> > just because I forgot to manualy do /usr/local/etc/rc.d/some_daemon restart
> 
> This is more a complaint about the existing ports infrastructure, as
> IMHO, it's something that should be handled there and not necessarily by
> "third-party" port management utilities.
> 
> Some existing ports (such as smartmontools, i.e. smartd) do this, while
> others (such as postfix) do not.

There is an @stopdaemon facility which can be used in the plist.  In
fact, it might be a smart idea to remove the way smartmontools does it
and replace it with @stopdaemon for consistency sake.

> There are pros and cons to what you want.  I myself have never managed
> to conclude if the pros outweigh the cons -- or vice-versa -- but I have
> thought about it before.

Personally, I do not want anything stopping or starting services on it's
own.  That is something that I, as an administrator, should be handling.
Of course others are entitled to disagree.  :)

With that said, it may be interesting to have a knob which allows for
services to be started right away if desired by the user, and if the
port supports such a situation (ie: it does not require any
configuration after the install).  The default for the user-defined knob
would be off, for at least POLA reasons.

-- WXS



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