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On Tue, 23 Jul 2019 17:31:26 +0200, I wrote: >I would be careful when calculating real power consumption. What makes >you think that adding 33% is a good value? On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 14:30:10 +0200, Matthias Fechner wrote: >If you under or over 50% you will lose efficiency. Again, oversized is way better, since calculating a realistic power consumption is virtually impossible and it's also virtually impossible to know the optimal workload of a power supply. Actually you only could use specifications provided by the vendors. In the end you get a rough guess on the values. What are 33% or 50% of rough estimated values? The result is mere nonsense.