From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Sep 20 14:28:39 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A599A3E2A6F for ; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 14:28:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.10]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BvVLG20rJz4cDN for ; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 14:28:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.239.216]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue107 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MCJzI-1kAcPT3eZW-009MqO; Sun, 20 Sep 2020 16:28:33 +0200 Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 16:28:33 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Ralf Mardorf Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Dual-booting/triple-booting FreeBSD under UEFI Message-Id: <20200920162833.433a14ce.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20200920035310.72276666@archlinux> References: <20200919180814.00005391@seibercom.net> <20200920035310.72276666@archlinux> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:rPkig83iHQgbEhBs6VEZIFUGeeVyV31OYqiqf9qw4qcYnkNCa1/ ZbyA/2jh3CRCCUh9FKDYlmzf+IuoalB4iGvTact21nIaeqCQWnskDkUqL/tgniEeQ2BHgIS L6HbTIsQtBfJChNStS0De7ZAZohP20dCQt1D6Ry7NWhazKnEkoSGfClSBZL3e5y3IPo2MtK rFQ04xXep3Q3Qye/GSKbQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:/rAy8HcDoGs=:zN6xhM55GFniROGli5e0ie rFL6KnmHBSGa9lPxINyuUqoBYmMoQXT773tcJk3QbweCEm7R8eoTDsCEoNuxXJKwWByj5KUq7 YzA+mQAL7nRyM/jKwIANr6wmipj+LiwDLX08NQQCj2W8YZY9pixO+coiBHzYSfkWWpXCMem7O q5haSt+N5SrzD7OHLriMiYli2Gj0+oPoHv3hNqBYwgdmNtyViAc+ZtaPOw7ndXWcUcVW1aR1u zvm9qjdOcefbxVSnktF1G90+P2sgyDT950fxqOdiAY6sTovmxXbFmLgC2dEXicFHiEedeg5uI 4h/IuTyUJivvF2i70fqnaGZraAPUc1kAcgG06ANjEIQXFY8uRGB6K893Nevbld/t2oIlA+/0y oujJBisjhpYqR8/xUh/wAjboqCNzNJtu8dBL9iq7lWbE/hNkNcOSS7jFEhCKd860JAqkDjeDn tzfGbZu+sD9Hq9qXXCbLdVdCZkj50H7gAaALHPCOdIsYXf7R0GFRc/l7h67bpQwCpzlswnRSX pxIAizHb0jAMUeoPfSRg81I3tonyZYSsKHw76kj5qq9zyQmftOATc4hapT2EJIA+jDHx2ZkOT 3bMAZ3AhZ6RWkP5KCfK86ee1loZgLK089nhBqr72VAXZyE01W9h8XTA1sIQy5ljnbfMeAmyGM RzNuuZKnkB94eAAZRV9r1Oc+uhX/ZwHAuIbJ3dtknYw0Gvzf9XcdGPdJD0MNB5/gx5+BolxV2 ww8M5GWlTqln84UOZjQr5BkOiApjMhbMokrq3NzO6y5+t3ym61mWVZOv5wwSoKHrioVtpI0N5 jMPqsmrT755KWmFYplsYdnFS/28dlI0zdDVNdZrYi5XVQ4FODY8Z9LQEU7FzM9he6aXIIU5 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BvVLG20rJz4cDN X-Spamd-Bar: ++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.17.10) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [2.51 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.06)[-0.056]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[178.5.239.216:received]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.58)[-0.584]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.75)[0.749]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[212.227.17.10:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[212.227.17.10:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2020 14:28:39 -0000 On Sun, 20 Sep 2020 03:53:10 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > A business technology news website spreading inaccurate news isn't > required to get informed about known vulnerabilities. If they aren't even able to get (or interested in getting) the terminology correct... if I remember correctly, what GRUB does is called a "boot manager" (thing that usually interactively selects from different operating systems to boot, or configures the boot of one operating system, by setting boot parameters or kernel options). GRUB does this even in Linux-only installations. A boot loader can be a standard MBR, without any interactivity, that loads an operating system. This is the typical situation on systems running FreeBSD exclusively. Or is there a different definition or consensus of the words? -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...