From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed May 23 12:21:25 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D750EFC822 for ; Wed, 23 May 2018 12:21:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johalun0@gmail.com) Received: from mail-wr0-x234.google.com (mail-wr0-x234.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::234]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A0FE668705 for ; Wed, 23 May 2018 12:21:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johalun0@gmail.com) Received: by mail-wr0-x234.google.com with SMTP id i12-v6so12958494wrc.4 for ; Wed, 23 May 2018 05:21:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=giqRSS3PhjibfOSM/PburZOQRXcgq3U5vHasL9tC5EA=; b=VC+S77nvuOB3njU2W6Bd5G+0bgJXG3YNhkvzX8h36Tg6vpDSzQ6ZZNT6V8GO1G9A7F zja0bjif+J22+sVdntOJLIWeLIYGCdGdgyT96YWuuHWNsfcDfJtIw8QBIxBVTCHI6TAN 7c+YGQ3jLUUwzO+58hVE7Kiii7yfhZm0XzPvY6Fkk1pRtVtNp9VcJBXxkje/FXZNLH/M vq898CdTGCcwCytavdxOO4QXFiy+P+mHUwW5gkeCgv7yqUrm81UGOtgl/KVTcSrDRZ1m fUqjm85EXVbhpxUEjbrm9r0vOCP6q68dZWLrpH5H/x0wt4qk/qZNWt/MyyTbvuM2EEmk o7cw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=giqRSS3PhjibfOSM/PburZOQRXcgq3U5vHasL9tC5EA=; b=EOgnZgExcvA8SX9auojN4KIw9G8kkyLnSCqyE5crjLR/jsEGuBjLOz30rrsbo8UXNK MeGyo+B7hYKGZiLlhLYR2nRHUyfI3WeQ2idX2udoksF5c/G/JuOYEBMP1En2Z1ZRB2Lv MWEbq/z4X3E4XTTWi5IZh0qOb/UpnYtlRFqtzm2hLRtVMwm/WrPHYxlPdRA8hHbmSZLj fY5xtfb9VRQ3KU7mRNOgFsRBtfZWUESsbz9n+9u0J8rQDXE7+2uiM/m0NCBH84EJQc0q sT0NzfiD17xBegLu/nvr/vh+xTbFiWxnw7ne0y8g0nEz1SqnBK1+GEASImd/qBOJ1mN7 Ls0w== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPwdyv4XssG+Dv+hYDfdPPOBgqWPQDDdcz80y7R0OUQytZd03OtkM 3NMVBkqd78fnqOfE3v4mPo5NKMMXJ5TB4GBQP1Uw2A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AB8JxZrHcQWG0PrCWeqVLzf8ylvjuN+OPEvgtz7ICllV6FmjGWX99VY6C6uJxLArC10Ef0vEepG94g3l4M5lwNUmzYA= X-Received: by 2002:adf:f74c:: with SMTP id z12-v6mr2430178wrp.165.1527078083384; Wed, 23 May 2018 05:21:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:adf:a789:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 23 May 2018 05:20:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Johannes Lundberg Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 13:20:42 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Boot USB memstick with MBR (WAS: Re: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver) To: FreeBSD Current Cc: Andreas Nilsson , Philip Homburg Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.26 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 12:21:25 -0000 On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Philip Homburg wrote: > >It's not that hard create a mbr based usb-stick. Far easier than to find a > >CD burner. > > 'Not hard' means > - undocumented. Or at least, if you start with release notes and install > instructions you won't find it. > - Probably only works if you already have a FreeBSD system. > > And if it is indeed 'not hard', why not just generate such an image as > part > of the release build? > As someone who burn memsticks weekly and don't own a cd r/w, I agree. It seems there's no way to download an .iso or .img image that will boot from usb on legacy bios. This is bad and should be fixed. We shouldn't expect people that want to experiment with FreeBSD on non-UEFI hardware to already have a FreeBSD installation where they can prepare boot media... They shouldn't have to. File a bug report in bugzilla and try to poke the right people (I don't know who is working in this area). I guess the options are, either we make a hybrid .img that'll boot off both (maybe not that easy if it requires changes to boot assembly code) or just add a -legacy-bios.img to the image generation scripts. This is important since it's about lowering the threshold of bringing people to FreeBSD and giving a good (i.e. working) first impression. > > >I believe boot/loader.conf is something you have to create, it is not > there > >by default. > > That's not the problem. The problem is that it lives on a separate zpool > that > is lost at every reboot. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-current@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-current-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >