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In-Reply-To: <7138d654-93b3-42fc-93b7-e96e2613945e@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <20191101024817.GA60134@admin.sibptus.ru> <558fd145-ad3e-90dc-5930-c01ca0c27d3c@panix.com> <5A739711-3758-4FAB-BEA7-D37A06AB92B9@council124.org> <7138d654-93b3-42fc-93b7-e96e2613945e@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21.99999 (BSF 352 2019-06-22) OpenPGP: url=http://ximalas.info/about/tronds-openpgp-public-key MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.2 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on enterprise.ximalas.info X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 474vF94fLvz4Q9j X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=ximalas.info header.s=default header.b=TU0nXFYO; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=ximalas.info; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of trond.endrestol@ximalas.info designates 2001:700:1100:1::8 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=trond.endrestol@ximalas.info X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.97 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ximalas.info:s=default]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ximalas.info:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[ximalas.info,none]; IP_SCORE(-1.97)[ip: (-7.98), ipnet: 2001:700::/32(-1.20), asn: 224(-0.65), country: NO(-0.01)]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:224, ipnet:2001:700::/32, country:NO]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2019 09:40:47 -0000 On Sat, 2 Nov 2019 09:02+1100, MJ wrote: > On 2/11/2019 7:00 am, Frank Fenderbender wrote: > > I seek two > > 1) a full structural listing which I require for partitioning; > What is that? Install FreeBSD with default partitions if you're unsure what > you want. Maybe hier(7) can help the OP. See https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=hier&apropos=0&sektion=7&manpath=FreeBSD+12.0-RELEASE+and+Ports&arch=default&format=html for a web version. > > 2) the minimum-required and performance-optimizing sizes for each. > See above. https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/bsdinstall-hardware.html states 96 MiB of RAM and 1.5 GiB of disk as a minimum. It also recommends 2-4 GiB of RAM and at least 8 GiB of disk space for desktop systems. Servers might need more resources. Maybe the OP should consider ZFS, as pooled storage coupled with quotas and reservations makes it at lot easier to manage disk space, and avoids falling into the old trap of creating a set of fixed sized disk partitions. > > Ubuntu 18.04 is the primary OS on the first internal drive, whereon exists > > the EFI partition and the GRUB install. > > This (1-TB) internal HD will be used for FreeBSD only, however, I want the > > HD's partitions to match the structure so that backups are more-easily > > scheduled according to use, that data corruption is minimized, and so that > > system-restores are manageable. > > I admit I'm confused. -- Trond.