From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 19 21:48:51 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 632C516A4CF for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:48:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (cvs.openbsd.org [199.185.137.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2078343D2F for ; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:48:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from deraadt@cvs.openbsd.org) Received: from cvs.openbsd.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cvs.openbsd.org (8.13.3/8.12.1) with ESMTP id j2JLn4x3007350; Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:49:04 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200503192149.j2JLn4x3007350@cvs.openbsd.org> To: Scott Long In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 19 Mar 2005 13:42:37 MST." <423C8EBD.9000906@samsco.org> Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 14:49:04 -0700 From: Theo de Raadt cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org cc: misc@openbsd.org cc: Aaron Glenn cc: Adam Subject: Re: Adaptec AAC raid support X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 21:48:51 -0000 > I'll heartily agree that there is little reason for any company to > keep information like this closed. Yet you are not helping. > But going around making personal > attacks on company employees that don't give you the cookie you want > is pretty shitty too. Then I guess that Doug Richardson made a pretty big mistake over the last 6 months by not letting us talk to whoever pulls the strings. He said I was talking to the person who could and would change things. So you are talking out of your ass, Scott. There is no personal attack happening against Doug Richardson. We have simply found the conduit for users to express their grievances. As they say: The best customer is the one who complains. Well I have done the discovery process to find out where the customers can complain. To Doug Richardson. Not to some front line Adaptec apologist who cannot add up the controllers being mentioned and realize that 1,800 controllers so far is a hell of a lot of money, and that now that this is being discussed in public, they had better solve this. And how many more people have learned from this and will avoid Adaptec products? (perhaps these circles where it is being discusssed is on the fringe, but people in this fringe circle buy or are involved in the purchases for a LOT of hardware. Much like if Cisco fucks up and someone brings note of it to NANOG. Then Cisco jumps. If Adaptec does not jump now, Adaptec is retarded.) Scott, do you own Adaptec stock? I just cannot explain why you would attack me, and apologize for Adaptec's behaviour. Are you on drugs?