From owner-freebsd-arch Mon Jun 18 18:12:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from dt051n37.san.rr.com (dt051n37.san.rr.com [204.210.32.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6853637B407; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:12:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Received: from slave (Studded@slave [10.0.0.1]) by dt051n37.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA37533; Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:12:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@DougBarton.net) Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2001 18:12:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton X-X-Sender: To: , Subject: Changes to the /etc/rc* boot system Message-ID: <20010618175638.L37408-100000@dt051n37.san.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Please follow up on this discussion in -arch] Gang, Several people are leaping into the fray with enthusiasm for this project all of a sudden, which is a good thing. However, I'm a little concerned that it's not getting enough of a "big picture" view. What may seem like lack of progress at this point is actually an effort to do several things before we proceed. A) Examine what we have (most of us understand that pretty well) B) Figure out what we need (in progress, nowhere near done yet) C) Take a hard look at NetBSD's code to determine if it meets our needs D) If we decide C) is "yes," figure out how to port/improve it C is pretty much a given in most people's minds at this point. Whether that is a good thing or not I'm not sure, but let's take that as a starting point for now. Given that there will be no small effort in porting their code to our system, and given that we already have the cooperation of one of the NetBSD developers to help with D), I would like to suggest that people bend their efforts away from trying to be the first one to get some code into our tree and onto some of the more general topics. Unfortunately, Luke from NetBSD is both very busy, and busier still until after Usenix. He's asked us to hold off on this till then, and I think that's reasonable. What I'd really like to focus on at this point are three questions. 1. What needs to be done differently on our system than theirs? 2. What would we like to improve on in their current system? 3. How can we take the current code and make it easier to maintain across both platforms? If we can have some good answers to those questions ready for after usenix, then we can start off the "What would the NetBSD developers do differently knowing what they know now?" conversation with some intelligent points of our own. Just a thought, Doug -- If you're never wrong, you're not trying hard enough. Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message