From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 16 13: 0:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from goblin.apana.org.au (goblin.apana.org.au [203.3.126.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED08156AB for ; Thu, 16 Dec 1999 13:00:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by goblin.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA08291; Fri, 17 Dec 1999 07:52:27 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from oracle.apana.org.au(203.3.126.130), claiming to be "ORACLE" via SMTP by goblin.apana.org.au, id smtpdgK8289; Fri Dec 17 07:52:22 1999 Message-ID: <00c001bf4808$ce3f81f0$827e03cb@ORACLE> From: "Doug Young" To: "Konrad Heuer" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Observations from Germany Date: Fri, 17 Dec 1999 07:02:02 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From what I've seen the situation in OZ (at least in the deep north) isn't much different to that in Germany .... apart from the international online website promotions of FreeBSD / Sun / SCO etc there doesn't appear to be a significant effort at getting "proper" unixes out into the real world. Probably the only operating system (other than Microsoft) seeing a commercial thrust here is the dreaded RedHat, which is seen advertized more and more in junk mail / newspaper inserts / computer retail stores & even K-Mart. There are quite a few unix related mailing lists, typically asssociated with some university or other, but even here there seems to be a definite leaning toward the linuxes :( ..... thankfully at least some of the "mexicans" have seen the light as there are at least a couple active FreeBSD groups in Sydney & Melbourne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Konrad Heuer" To: Sent: Friday, December 17, 1999 6:34 AM Subject: Observations from Germany > > Hi everyone, > > one question of high interest for me (and I think for the open source > community) is about what vendors and purchasers offer. > > I see that SuSE does a good job in Germany. SuSE Linux is nowadays offered > by large purchasers and mail-order-houses like Comtech (a large > country-wide PC hardware vendor) or Conrad Elektronik (a large > mail-order-house selling electronic components, hardware, consumer > electronics etc.) Transtec, an approved hardware vendor offering anything > from traditional UNIX workstation accessories to printers and PC hardware, > sells Intel Linux servers ready to use SuSE Linux. > > On the one hand, I welcome this trend. Some years ago, commercial vendors > seemed to move exclusively to the Windows systems. On the other hand, I > would much more like to see FreeBSD in that context than SuSE Linux > (especially *SuSE* Linux since this distribution frightens everyone with > some real Unix experience). > > I'm rather interested to hear something about the corresponding situation > in other countries, for example in the USA or Japan or Australia or Russia > or France or ... - I must stop here since the list would grow to much. > > Really thanks for any response! > > // > // Konrad Heuer ____ ___ _______ > // Gesellschaft für wissenschaftliche / __/______ ___ / _ )/ __/ _ \ > // Datenverarbeitung mbH GÖttingen / _// __/ -_) -_) _ |\ \/ // / > // Am Faßberg, D-37077 GÖttingen /_/ /_/ \__/\__/____/___/____/ > // Deutschland (Germany) ----- The Power to Serve ----- > // http://www.freebsd.org > // kheuer@gwdu60.gwdg.de > // > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message