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From: Ian Lepore To: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 11:13:08 -0600 In-Reply-To: References: <21BE83BC-0667-44F7-83E4-1664A2BC6017@icloud.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.28.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F7j2x17Fcz4rr8 X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.00 / 15.00]; local_wl_from(0.00)[freebsd.org]; ASN(0.00)[asn:16509, ipnet:54.244.128.0/17, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2021 17:13:13 -0000 On Sun, 2021-03-28 at 06:54 +0200, Klaus Kchemann via freebsd-arm wrote: > > Am 27.03.2021 um 18:26 schrieb Andrew Mitchell via freebsd-arm < > > freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>: > >=20 > > Any good alternative to Raspberry for Arm64?=20 >=20 > the simple answer is : no=20 > - >=20 That's just plain wrong. Virtually any alternative arm64 system that runs freebsd at all is a superior choice over the Rpi family. Anything else will have better support from the freebsd developers including, especially, the professional developers who are paid by companies to support freebsd on arm/arm64. Nobody is paying anybody to support freebsd on rpi, and consequently all you get in the way of support is half-baked theories and anecdotal reports from other people struggling to use an rpi with freebsd. If you're looking to save every penny possible and are willing to put up with endless frustration and things not working, get an rpi. If you want a usable arm64 computer that runs freebsd, get anything else. -- Ian > The longer answer is : >=20 > RPI4 is the only cheap board offering 8GB RAM (for an unbeatable > price), > RK3399 has a 4GB RAM-limit ( don=1B$B!G=1B(Bt misunderstand the Rock Pi N= 10/ 8GB > , because 4GB are reserved for the NPU). >=20 > If you think something doesn=1B$B!G=1B(Bt meet your needs with the RPI4 ,= you > can be nearly sure=20 > that other cheap boards also don=1B$B!G=1B(Bt for FreeBSD ( I own some ot= hers). > One limitation on the 4B is the missing PCIe- slot, which is (1x > lane) available on the CM4- I/O-board, > but for the cost of the loss of USB 3.0 on the I/O-board. > - >=20 > The `professional` answer is : >=20 > of course , starting @~$500-$700(without accessories like RAM etc.) > you can buy aarch64-dev-boards which completely outperform the RPI4=20 > in performance and connectivity ;-) >=20 > - >=20 > =1B$B!D=1B(Band last but not least=1B$B!D=1B(B >=20 > - > the most interesting answer is : >=20 > > Am 27.03.2021 um 18:26 schrieb Andrew Mitchell via freebsd-arm < > > freebsd-arm@freebsd.org>: > > =1B$B!D=1B(B.smoothly =1B$B!D=1B(B. >=20 >=20 > :-) >=20 > for aarch64 :=20 > if you really want to be SMOOTHLY HAPPY :-)=20 > : .. buy an Apple M1 machine=1B$B!D!D=1B(B.. > and wait what u-boot, "vm-ware" and BSD-OSes will have=20 > to offer (I have "heard "something of that ) =1B$B!D=1B(B.. >=20 > - >=20 > Regards >=20 > K. >=20