Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 22:44:16 +0000 From: Grzegorz Junka <list1@gjunka.com> To: Greg V <greg@unrelenting.technology> Cc: x11-list freebsd <freebsd-x11@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Does either Gnome or KDE support Wayland on FreeBSD? [EOM] Message-ID: <ae5fa504-5d7c-fe83-b0d6-ffff362bd2f1@gjunka.com> In-Reply-To: <1530481686.15209.0@hraggstad.unrelenting.technology> References: <e1910705-ec89-be50-1317-6f0ad95f61cf@gjunka.com> <CAECmPwv7g5iCKMa4UrLqcXq6VS-5CHFJT31w-uzheg3y%2BLz9-Q@mail.gmail.com> <3f7629b0-1947-4bd3-f4fa-eb685dc2046b@gjunka.com> <1530481686.15209.0@hraggstad.unrelenting.technology>
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On 01/07/2018 21:48, Greg V wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 2:45 PM, Grzegorz Junka <list1@gjunka.com> wrote: >> >> On 30/06/2018 20:37, Johannes Lundberg wrote: >>> I don˙t know about Gnome or KDE but GTK3 apps work with Wayland. It >>> needs ports built with custom options though. >>> >> >> Building ports isn't a problem, however I don't understand how >> particular apps can work with Wayland. I thought that they would need >> to run inside Weston or some other compositor, which in turn runs on >> Wayland? Is the X server in that configuration running as a Wayland >> client with with the GTK3 apps running outside of the X server (i.e. >> are managed by the compositor directly)? > > Yes, you can run them inside e.g. Weston or Sway. > > Compositors don't run "on" Wayland, Wayland is a protocol. > The compositor is the display server, it implements the server side of > Wayland. > (Compositors can run in windowed mode under X or under another Wayland > compositor, for development/debugging purposes.) > > For backwards compatibility, the X server is indeed running as a > Wayland client, this is called Xwayland, this is optional. > > About KDE: I think KDE's kwin_wayland is available now too, but I'm > not sure if it would run directly as the main display server (not > windowed mode) right now on FreeBSD without additional patches > (because of vt/session management stuff -- though maybe ConsoleKit2 > might work?). > Thanks Greg for the clarification. Let me rephrase it to see if I got it right. Currently FreeBSD supports Wayland compositor in windowed mode under X and this is how the GTK3 applications are running. It might support Wayland as the main display server (not windowed), i.e. using KDE's kwin_wayland, but the status is currently not known. If that's correct, then assuming that I compiled my ports with support for Wayland enabled, and assuming further that I have 11.2 installed, what else would I need to do to be able to test this? I guess I need to compile and install drm-next-kmod or drm-stable-kmod. Will either work on generic 11.2 or I need a custom kernel? I guess again that the later should work with the generic kernel but it will only supports Polaris Radeon cards. If I recall correctly Hans Petter Selasky was working on merging support for Radeon Vega (Linux kernel 4.15) into 11-STABLE (future 11.3). If that is correct and the merge was completed then I could compile a custom 11-STABLE kernel and together with the 11.2 userland be able to test windowed Wayland on Vega? Please correct if my guesses are wrong. Sorry for all those questions but without the updated wiki it gets a bit confusing :) GrzegorzJ
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