From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Wed Jun 13 18:23:25 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4BAA10037ED for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:23:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 750C97210C for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:23:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 340B210037DF; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:23:25 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2172910037DE; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:23:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [130.225.244.222]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F4A72109; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:23:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (unknown [192.168.55.3]) by phk.freebsd.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 015AC14885; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:23:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id w5DINLOv045576 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:23:21 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: (from phk@localhost) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id w5DINKhS045575; Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:23:20 GMT (envelope-from phk) To: Warner Losh cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" , "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Armeb removal before 12 In-reply-to: From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" References: <201806131739.w5DHd6sl040722@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <45573.1528914200.1@critter.freebsd.dk> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:23:20 +0000 Message-ID: <45574.1528914200@critter.freebsd.dk> X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:23:26 -0000 -------- In message , Warner Losh writes: >One can, with a lot of effort, do 64MB too, but it's more effort than for >i386. Even at 64MB on i386, though, the number of things you can do is >quite limited. You can't build anything on that machine. = Well, we *do* have code for something called "swap-devices", and belive it or not, I actually ran make world in 64MB recently - just to see if it would work. Took most of a week. PS: No opinion on the proposed removal. -- = Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe = Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence= .