From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri May 11 16:51:56 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DA6FAA798 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 16:51:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@geeks.org) Received: from mail.geeks.org (mail.geeks.org [IPv6:2001:4980:3333:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B17F7512C for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 16:51:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@geeks.org) Received: from mail.geeks.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by after-clamsmtpd.geeks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 997A1110219 for ; Fri, 11 May 2018 11:46:34 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mail.geeks.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 7A38311020B; Fri, 11 May 2018 11:46:34 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 11:46:34 -0500 From: Doug McIntyre To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A request for release engineering Message-ID: <20180511164634.GA19106@geeks.org> References: <4acac175-9bf2-40a6-a41a-cb5870641c8d@yandex.com> <670715be-849c-47fc-72b4-42b81cf31c0a@qeng-ho.org> <0fbe4e76-f482-c936-7bf2-2b689d6902d2@yandex.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0fbe4e76-f482-c936-7bf2-2b689d6902d2@yandex.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 16:51:56 -0000 On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 08:10:14PM +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > Since bumping the version up using freebsd-update needs you to install > all packages afresh, it would appear to my naked eye that it never makes > sense to upgrade. Instead, one should simply wait till one's release > version goes beyond EOL - and then install the latest available release > afresh. This is just what I plan on this box (10.3) - wait till > November, and then install 12 over the current installation. Do people not generally use binary pkg's? pkg upgrade generally works fine as part of a 10.3->11.1 (or 10.3->11.0) freebsd-update path. It'll automatically uninstall and reinstall the new ABI version packages for you. Granted, my scale makes my local poudriere build server nice, but I don't have that many customizations to my source builds that stock binary builds would work for 98% of my package set. I couldn't imagine rebuilding kernel/packages from ports source as part of every upgrade cycle. My primary home server works just fine with binary updates, binary pkg updates on everything I do there.