From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jul 6 07:27:02 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A49191065681; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 07:27:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mtm@wubethiopia.com) Received: from dire.wubethiopia.com (j071.v.rootbsd.net [208.79.82.223]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74F848FC0C; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 07:27:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mtm@wubethiopia.com) Received: from rogue.mike.lan (unknown [213.55.87.239]) by dire.wubethiopia.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 616304FD97EE; Sun, 6 Jul 2008 07:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <487074AA.20103@wubethiopia.com> Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 10:30:50 +0300 From: Mike Makonnen User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.12 (X11/20080323) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Watson References: <784966050807021123l267aa20en39eb513c12c90ad2@mail.gmail.com> <20080702235800.H47773@fledge.watson.org> <486C8700.5020100@lobraun.de> <20080703092511.T69986@fledge.watson.org> <486F8C57.9050908@wubethiopia.com> <20080705161614.O19209@fledge.watson.org> In-Reply-To: <20080705161614.O19209@fledge.watson.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Lothar Braun , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sysinstall is still inadequate after all of these years X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 07:27:02 -0000 Robert Watson wrote: > On Sat, 5 Jul 2008, Mike Makonnen wrote: > >> The installer can already install a basic FreeBSD system (including >> the ports collection) from CD, UFS, or DOS partition. I'm currently >> working on getting FTP/HTTP/NFS installation to work. Next on my list >> after that is setting Date and Time Zone. At that stage the installer >> will be more or less feature-complete, and I can start code cleanup, >> getting it to work on additional architectures, etc. I had initially >> intended to include package installation as one of the criteria for >> feature-completeness, but after reading through this thread I've >> decided not to use sysinstall's package installation code and instead >> write one from scratch once I'm happy with the rest of the installer. > > Sounds pretty much in line with what I was looking for. However, I > think I would like to see it be a bit more complete than sysinstall in > the area of geom partition labeling (concat/strip/raid/encryption), > and perhaps also ZFS support. I realize that adds complexity a fair > amount, but one of the biggest areas of feature lack in sysinstall > today is that you are basically stuck with the original BSD partition > structure and UFS, whereas we expect increasing numbers of users to > deploy ZFS. We don't have boot support currently, but being able to > set up /data as a ZFS file system would be great. Today, people have > to do an initial install on, say, a small boot partition and then > relabel/deal with the rest of the disk, boot a live CD, or worse, > discover they have to repartition, which really fails to expose some > of the excellent ease-of-use, auto-configuration, etc, features that > we otherwise have in this area. I agree absolutely. I should have said ".... more or less feature-complete for a 1.0 release". Cheers. -- Mike Makonnen | GPG-KEY: http://people.freebsd.org/~mtm/mtm.asc mtm @ FreeBSD.Org | AC7B 5672 2D11 F4D0 EBF8 5279 5359 2B82 7CD4 1F55 FreeBSD | http://www.freebsd.org