From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed May 8 15: 9: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (pns.wobline.de [212.68.68.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1459337B405 for ; Wed, 8 May 2002 15:06:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from k6-2-300.tisys.org (ppp-306.wobline.de [212.68.71.27]) by mcqueen.wolfsburg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/sh-2002041503) with ESMTP id g48M6lr22121; Thu, 9 May 2002 00:06:47 +0200 Received: from daemon.tisys.org (palomino-1533.tisys.org [192.168.0.3]) by k6-2-300.tisys.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g48M8Yo2000712; Thu, 9 May 2002 00:08:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from nils@daemon.tisys.org) Received: (from nils@localhost) by daemon.tisys.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g48M7Ang012987; Thu, 9 May 2002 00:07:10 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 00:07:10 +0200 From: Nils Holland To: Coleman Kane Cc: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: It's not fun anymore. (Mike resigns from core) Message-ID: <20020509000710.A12907@daemon.tisys.org> References: <4119.1020875350@axl.seasidesoftware.co.za> <20020509073441.A5281@cs.waikato.ac.nz> <20020508170215.A15872@shell.one.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020508170215.A15872@shell.one.net>; from cokane@one.net on Wed, May 08, 2002 at 05:02:15PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD palomino-1533.tisys.org 4.6-PRERELEASE FreeBSD 4.6-PRERELEASE X-Machine-Uptime: 11:51PM up 14:42, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 08, 2002 at 05:02:15PM -0400, Coleman Kane stood up and spoke: > > Who knows, perhaps between Mike and Jordan leaving and the atmosphere that > surrounds all of this trouble, it may bring up leadership from some of the > younger community to actually do something real nice for the project. Well, being no FreeBSD developer or contributor, but rather a long-time FreeBSD user, I must say that I don't see it as alarming if some of the "old" people resign or at least decide to step back a bit. I guess this is perfectly normal - for projects like FreeBSD as much as for commercial companies. How "alive" FreeBSD is can not be dertemined by looking at how long a certain programmer / core member has been around, but only by looking at the popularity of FreeBSD amongst programmers, commiters, and end-users. And as such, FreeBSD seems to be alive and kicking. It's normal that people, after having been doing a certain thing for a long period of time, will at some time get bored, and start doing something else, either totally giving up the old thing, or at least cutting time they spend on it. This makes room for new faces, new ways of doing things, and new ideas. I find that if you reach a point where something you do is no fun anymore, something must be wrong, and you should probably draw the neccessary consequences. That's what Mike did. It's what I would have done if I were in his situation. So the bottom line is that even after the things that have happened here lately, I don't see FreeBSD as a project being in danger. All I see is the normal way of current people leaving and new people appearing. So, nothing to worry about, actually. Greetings Nils -- Nils Holland Ti Systems - http://www.tisys.org Addicted to computing since 1987 High on FreeBSD since 1996 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message