From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Apr 12 02:27:25 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id CAA23207 for isp-outgoing; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 02:27:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.MCESTATE.COM (mail.MCESTATE.COM [207.211.200.50]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA23202 for ; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 02:27:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by mail.MCESTATE.COM (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA19446; Sat, 12 Apr 1997 02:27:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 12 Apr 1997 02:27:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Vincent Poy To: John-Mark Gurney cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some advice needed. In-Reply-To: <19970411233527.43600@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-isp@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, John-Mark Gurney wrote: > > Hmmm, for under $200, that still isn't too bad. I thought it > > would cost way more than that. How much would something new like this > > cost? > > well.. if you go with a cheep pentium mb (it's cheeper than a 486mb) that > will run you about $95 or $100... then an AMD k5 (they are slightly more > expensive than an AMD 5x86/133 your looking at aroound $45 (75) to $95 (133). > then case would be around $50... ethernet card (16bit ne2000) $30... > memory, say 8megs (might want to get 16megs) for $45... then you have your > multiport cards... which can have a varing range of prices... so your > looking at about $300 plus the cost of the multiport cards... Hmm, will a K5 run as well as a P5 though? Since it might be faster but what about compatibility issues? As for the ethernet card, wouldn't a 100Mbps PCI be better? But is 8 megs really enough for a terminal server? Now how much does the multiport cards cost? > of course you can do a lot with this box... I happen to run gated on it so > that routing is handle properly.. :) This is only if I can figure out how to get gated working. =) > > What does that $5k include? > > sync card, csu/dsu, 5-10 modems, 5-10 phone lines, another 2gig hd, dat > drive for backups, inet access (56k frame relay)... most monthly fees will > be covered for a few months... I thought you had a T1 but 56k would cost $5k already? > > Yep, that's true unless you had to deal with Rain.net or something > > in Oregon. > > well.. from the sounds of it.. there are a number of higher level providers > that are starting to fight it out locally... seems one company is offering > T1 locally.. and they connectivity is via microwave to portland... (that > way they don't have to run cable)... so there are a number of choices for > top level providers locally.... this will also causing the service to > improve to make sure you stay with 'em... Hmmm, via microwave? Now that must cost them something to do that but isn't microwave slower than actual cable? Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____]