From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 11 19:31:58 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: hackers@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722C916A47E for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:31:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98CE443DAE for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:30:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BCE1A3C19; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 11:30:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B036251390; Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:30:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 14:30:42 -0500 From: Kris Kennaway To: Gergely CZUCZY Message-ID: <20061111193042.GA8188@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20061111183110.GA6975@xor.obsecurity.org> <20061111183432.GA41296@harmless.hu> <20061111184025.GA7128@xor.obsecurity.org> <20061111184625.GA41463@harmless.hu> <20061111185228.GA7338@xor.obsecurity.org> <20061111185747.GA56613@harmless.hu> <20061111190245.GA7577@xor.obsecurity.org> <20061111191322.GA56870@harmless.hu> <20061111191733.GB7930@xor.obsecurity.org> <20061111192406.GA57162@harmless.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061111192406.GA57162@harmless.hu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org, Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: system randomly freezes X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 19:31:58 -0000 --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Nov 11, 2006 at 08:24:06PM +0100, Gergely CZUCZY wrote: > > You can't even break to the debugger? > well, no. > currently the serial line is not configured nor connected, and the system= console > is not accessable. >=20 > > > i'd like to solve this, but the technical opportunities are limited h= ere. > > > we cannot have downtime, and if we have it have to be minimized. as y= ou see > > > clients won't accept a reasons like "sorry, we were debugging this OS= we > > > run at the server". > > >=20 > > > the question will be that, when i have a serial link, and shit happen= s(tm), > > > should i inspect it myself, or should i scream somewhere for a more d= ecent > > > person (maybe a developer) to check it? > >=20 > > Did you read the developers handbook chapter I pointed you to, yet? > may be. a while back i've read the developers' handbook. but yet, i > haven't read that chapter, currently, i'm in a work, and have little time > to share. Please come back once you've read it, since you're clearly missing some of the points I've been making :-) Kris --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFViTiWry0BWjoQKURAhCaAKCsnBfFFSS7aYuWE0V2LdpgR9qEkQCfVoyR D87bJxryIKYH4npuX7j3erQ= =8MXB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z--